Phil Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 While the Truth is ineffable, these are the ‘truest’ words which can be spoken. There is no clearer verbalization of the actuality of reality. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) Why does love have to be wrapped up with Brahman? Does love include hate? Why are we privileging love? This seems like a different sense of the word love than is ordinarily used, some kind of abstract sense. I'm not sure what you mean by love. Love of what? Love of the undifferentiated whole? I think (intuit) that I know what you mean but it would be interesting to see you try to put into words, at least to me. Is this some kind of bonding with God or something like that? I think so. Something like that. Realizing there's no difference and coming to love the Whole as it really is. Once you realize there ain't two, you can come to love the One. Edited February 15 by Joseph Maynor Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reena Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Yes reality loves us and we don't even realize it. Quote Mention So basically I'm an autistic INFJ BPD sigma Pisces female with anger and CPTSD issues. Wow wow. My plate looks full. I Couldn't have been weirder than that. Now I get why I'm so idiosyncratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ges Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Nope. Love is a lie and a delusion. It is exactly the opposite of truth-- self-deception at its finest. Truth is the most absolutest of self-interest at all costs. And love just happens to be merely one of those occurring "costs" at certain times, so to speak. But you're all yet to realize. Be warned. The truth has been spoken. Lol. 💅👰🐦 Quote Mention Have faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 2 minutes ago, Ges said: Nope. Love is a lie and a delusion. It is exactly the opposite of truth-- self-deception at its finest. Truth is the most absolutest of self-interest at all costs. And love just happens to be merely one of those occurring "costs" at certain times, so to speak. But you're all yet to realize. Be warned. The truth has been spoken. Lol. 💅👰🐦 Lol, who the fuck thought this account was mine again? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ges Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Just now, Jonas Long said: Lol, who the fuck thought this account was mine again? Couldn't imagine being you even in my wildest dreams. Lol. Quote Mention Have faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reena Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 You @Phil have the problem that you guys don't focus on love. You simply say love. To say is easy. But to exude love you have to be able to go past a person's flaws. You create blocks in the energy transmission to another person then you can't create love. Love is not the establishment of truth. Love is the understanding of it. Quote Mention So basically I'm an autistic INFJ BPD sigma Pisces female with anger and CPTSD issues. Wow wow. My plate looks full. I Couldn't have been weirder than that. Now I get why I'm so idiosyncratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ges Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 @Reena I can't believe I kinda missed you. Haha! It felt refreshing reading your posts again. God bless you. Quote Mention Have faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reena Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 @Ges who are you? Quote Mention So basically I'm an autistic INFJ BPD sigma Pisces female with anger and CPTSD issues. Wow wow. My plate looks full. I Couldn't have been weirder than that. Now I get why I'm so idiosyncratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ges Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 @Reena Nobody of importance. Don't mind me. I'm not gonna stay for too long. Cheers. Quote Mention Have faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Ges said: Nope. Love is a lie and a delusion. It is exactly the opposite of truth-- self-deception at its finest. Truth is the most absolutest of self-interest at all costs. And love just happens to be merely one of those occurring "costs" at certain times, so to speak. But you're all yet to realize. Be warned. The truth has been spoken. Lol. 💅👰🐦 Nice to see you back. You're a wise dude. I'm not saying I agree with you but I like to see (hear) your voice included in the exchange of perspectives. Edited February 15 by Joseph Maynor Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ges Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 @Joseph Maynor Hey dude, missed you too. I typed the letter "c" in my browser's search bar, and it auto-suggested this site. I went on and read some random stuff and noticed that my name was mentioned once or twice, so I thought I might drop in and say hi. Not surprisingly, your insights are as sharp and delicate as ever, even when they fall on deaf ears. Just keep on doing your thing, man. You're brilliant! Quote Mention Have faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ges Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 @Phil Sorry for derailing the thread. I'll be out soon. Quote Mention Have faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 minute ago, Ges said: @Joseph Maynor Hey dude, missed you too. I typed the letter "c" in my browser's search bar, and it auto-suggested this site. I went on and read some random stuff and noticed that my name was mentioned once or twice, so I thought I might drop in and say hi. Not surprisingly, your insights are as sharp and delicate as ever, even when they fall on deaf ears. Just keep on doing your thing, man. You're brilliant! You too man. Stay on here. We're having good discussions here. We're doing the work. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 51 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said: Why does love have to be wrapped up with Brahman? That’d just be another condition. 51 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said: Does love include hate? Being the lens-sphere there is the so called experience of thoughts. How thoughts feel to that which is being the spheres is referred to as emotion; energy (love) in motion (appearing). No, love does not include hate. Love does not include anything. Any thing is a thought, just another condition. 51 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said: Why are we privileging love? It only seems so from the illusory perspective of the separate self, which is what suffering is (points to). It’s a misinterpretation based on misidentification which is based on assumptions which is aversion. 51 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said: This seems like a different sense of the word love than is ordinarily used, some kind of abstract sense. There is nothing abstract about I love you. This is self-evident. There is nothing else. 51 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said: I'm not sure what you mean by love. Meaning is a presumption. 51 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said: Love of what? Subject-object thought. The actuality of thought is love. 51 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said: Love of the undifferentiated whole? There is no one separate of a whole, which could love ‘it’. Only the illusion there is, or, thought attachment, the believing of thoughts, beliefs. 51 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said: I think (intuit) that I know what you mean but it would be interesting to see you try to put into words, See: title of this thread. 51 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said: at least to me. That is the separate self of thoughts. 51 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said: Is this some kind of bonding with God or something like that? God is self-evident as the thought, God. Subject-object thought. “The me & God” (thought story). Nothing is hidden. 51 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said: I think so. Contemplate, inspect, what, where, when, is this alleged “thinker”. What is ‘it’ made of. 51 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said: Something like that. Realizing there's no difference and coming to love the Whole as it really is. Once you realize there ain't two, you can come to love the One. The one who realizes, comes to, realizes there aren’t two, loves the one - is illusory. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 34 minutes ago, Ges said: Nope. Love is a lie and a delusion. It is exactly the opposite of truth-- self-deception at its finest. Truth is the most absolutest of self-interest at all costs. And love just happens to be merely one of those occurring "costs" at certain times, so to speak. But you're all yet to realize. Be warned. The truth has been spoken. Lol. 💅👰🐦 Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ges Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 @Phil Yes, yes. As always. Just lol. Quote Mention Have faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 8 minutes ago, Ges said: @Phil Sorry for derailing the thread. I'll be out soon. Not at all! 🍻 Deflection. Projection. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 minute ago, Ges said: @Phil Yes, yes. As always. Just lol. Don't let him scare you away. He's his own trigger. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ges Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Just now, Joseph Maynor said: Don't let him scare you away. He's his own trigger. I just don't see any point in playing that game anymore. Like I said, Truth is the most absolutest of self-interest at all costs. I am absolutely sure of that and will simply practice what I preach. Quote Mention Have faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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