Jonas Long Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 2 minutes ago, Someone here said: @Jonas Long too late of a realisation. It was an illustrative example. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 @Joseph Maynor then what is it ? Anybody in this godforsaken earth knows what the hell is THIS ?🤔 Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 @Jonas Long i know . Just don't mess with Phil . You cannot outsmart or "out-argument" him by definition. (Not sure if that's a word ). Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivankiss Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 2 minutes ago, Someone here said: this godforsaken earth Did you mean "This Godless Endeavour" ? 3 minutes ago, Someone here said: what the hell is THIS ?🤔 This is a thought that being is having. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 2 minutes ago, Someone here said: @Jonas Long i know . Just don't mess with Phil . You cannot outsmart or "out-argument" him by definition. (Not sure if that's a word ). Why not? It's fun, and easy, and I'm bored. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 1 minute ago, ivankiss said: This is a thought that being is having 🤦♀️ are you Phil in disguise of Ivan ? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivankiss Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Just now, Someone here said: 🤦♀️ are you Phil in disguise of Ivan ? Of course not. No relation to Chat GPT in any way. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 @Phil why use the "I" pronoun in the post I screenshot, but stubbornly avoid it in this thread? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 6 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: Why not? It's fun, and easy, and I'm bored. Bored ? So you are not even serious. You just hang out here to kill some time . Awareness work and awakening is not something you dabble on..you either do it seriously and congruently or you quit playing Tom& Jerry with Phil. 3 minutes ago, ivankiss said: Of course not. No relation to Chat GPT in any way. Lol. Nice one. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Just now, Someone here said: Bored ? So you are not even serious. You just hang out here to kill some time . Awareness work and awakening is not something you dabble on..you either do it seriously and congruently or you quit playing Tom& Jerry with Phil. It's all for fun. Nothing is serious, ever. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Just now, Jonas Long said: It's all for fun. Nothing is serious, ever. Sure .and we are seeing evidence of this undeniable fact in Gaza everyday. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivankiss Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 1 minute ago, Someone here said: Lol. Nice one. No but seriously... Do you understand what I said there? Can you see how this is a thought you are having, right now? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 (edited) 1 minute ago, Someone here said: Sure .and we are seeing evidence of this undeniable fact in Gaza everyday. that is exactly what taking things deadly serious leads to. Edited May 24 by Jonas Long Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 3 minutes ago, ivankiss said: No but seriously... Do you understand what I said there? Can you see how this is a thought you are having, right now? Well ..kind of . I halfway agree and halfway disagree. Is a piece of wood an actual object or a thought I'm having now or both or neither ? Who knows..so..... Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 What is baldness a psychosomatic symptom of? 🤔 Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivankiss Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 (edited) 13 hours ago, Someone here said: Well ..kind of . I halfway agree and halfway disagree. Is a piece of wood an actual object or a thought I'm having now or both or neither ? Who knows..so..... If you can, pick up a piece of wood now. Or any other object for that matter. What can you do now? You can see it. Touch it. Maybe lick it. What else? You can think about it. You can think to yourself "this is an object. I am holding an object. This object is kind of weird. What the fuck is this thing?" You can also think to yourself "I know exactly what this object is. This object is obviously a dildo. A vibrator. It's long, thick and it has 4 speeds." It might make you laugh. Or cry. Depending on your love - life situation. But you would have a feeling... About the dildo. A feeling about a thought. Makes sense so far? Edited May 25 by ivankiss Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 @ivankiss I get your point .no need to continue .but do so anyways if you want to. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 24 Author Share Posted May 24 1 hour ago, Jonas Long said: Like talking to a wall... Alright then. Similar yet not the exactly the same. 43 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: @Phil why use the "I" pronoun in the post I screenshot, but stubbornly avoid it in this thread? There aren’t really users or anyone avoiding. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivankiss Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 1 minute ago, Someone here said: I get your point .no need to continue .but do so anyways if you want to. So what don't you get? There is being only. You get that. There is thought, there is feeling, there is perception. All of it arising in and ultimately is... being. Counsciousness. What about THIS are you not getting? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 3 minutes ago, ivankiss said: So what don't you get? There is being only. You get that. There is thought, there is feeling, there is perception. All of it arising in and ultimately is... being. Counsciousness. What about THIS are you not getting? It's a tautology . Its like saying A=A...I mean yeah no shit sherlock..A thing is itself . Feelings are feeling .objects are objects . A hairy dick with full sack of balls is a hairy dick with full sack of balls etc. I'm not asking about what existence is made of ..I'm asking what it is that is made of whatever it is that its made of . Get that ? Not "what a dildo is "..but "what THE DILDO IS". You are basically saying everything is just what it is ..and I agree ..but I still don't know what is it that it is whatever it is . Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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