Is Homosexuality Unnatural?

[Orb]

I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this. 

 

My family is mostly Christian and against gay marriage. 

 

The reason why makes sense but doesn't resonate for me. 

 

Essentially from the Christian perspective God created man and woman for each other, so man and man or woman and woman together would not be consistent with the way God created us. 

 

I myself am sexually open, I'd say I'm pansexual, but the Christian argument is hard to take down lol.

[spiritual dreams]

what is the distinction between natural and unnatural?

[Orb]

@spiritual dreams Id say unnatural is out of alignment with balance. 

[Jonas Long]

Can't teach an old God new tricks.. 

[Orb]

1 hour ago, Jonas Long said:

Can't teach an old God new tricks.. 

Good one 😄🥴

[Orb]

47 minutes ago, DMT Elf said:

God didn’t create man and woman. Man and woman created man and woman. Gender is a social construct.

 

I understand that gender is a social construct. But it's undeniable that sexually there is male and female, this exists in most life forms even plants. 

 

48 minutes ago, DMT Elf said:

The “Christian perspective” is the root of countless acts of violence, hate crime, and murder. And is the justification behind laws intended to discriminate.

Agreed.

[Jonas Long]

10 minutes ago, Orb said:

 

I understand that gender is a social construct. But it's undeniable that sexually there is male and female, this exists in most life forms even plants. 

 

Agreed.

Male and female is a spectrum and not a duality, even in nature. There are animals that change gender mid life, animals that have both sex parts and reproduce on their own, animals that have no gender, etc.  There is also homosexuality, asexuality and every possible variance in between among animals. All human beings began life in the womb as "female" and some become "male" later on(before birth) also throughout history almost every known culture is known to have had transgender individuals, gay individuals, ace, pan, etc.  

[Orb]

12 minutes ago, Jonas Long said:

Male and female is a spectrum and not a duality, even in nature. There are animals that change gender mid life, animals that have both sex parts and reproduce on their own, animals that have no gender, etc.  There is also homosexuality, asexuality and every possible variance in between among animals. All human beings began life in the womb as "female" and some become "male" later on(before birth) also throughout history almost every known culture is known to have had transgender individuals, gay individuals, ace, pan, etc.  

Great explanation, what's the difference between sex and gender?

[Jonas Long]

10 minutes ago, Orb said:

Great explanation, what's the difference between sex and gender?

Sex usually refers to primary biological sexual characteristics ie genitalia, gender is basically what is imposed on individuals based on what primary(and secondary) sexual characteristics they have by society. 

Edited April 30, 2023 by Jonas Long

[Jonas Long]

30 minutes ago, Jonas Long said:

Male and female is a spectrum and not a duality, even in nature. There are animals that change gender mid life, animals that have both sex parts and reproduce on their own, animals that have no gender, etc.  There is also homosexuality, asexuality and every possible variance in between among animals. All human beings began life in the womb as "female" and some become "male" later on(before birth) also throughout history almost every known culture is known to have had transgender individuals, gay individuals, ace, pan, etc.  

I mistakenly used the word "gender" a few times when I should have used "sex", my bad.  Certain animals change sex midlife, have no sex, etc. 

[Mandy]

Hate is unnatural. 

[Phil]

6 hours ago, Orb said:

Essentially from the Christian perspective God created man and woman for each other, so man and man or woman and woman together would not be consistent with the way God created us. 

 

I myself am sexually open, I'd say I'm pansexual, but the Christian argument is hard to take down

Meanwhile in reality… no one’s actually experiencing a created, a God or an us. 

[Jonas Long]

14 minutes ago, Phil said:

 God or an us. 

Lol 

[Phil]

[Jonas Long]

1 hour ago, Phil said:

 God or an us. 

Looks like 

God or anus. 

 

Sorry 

[Phil]

@Jonas Long

Have you never seen the SNL Jeopardy sketches!?

[Jonas Long]

2 hours ago, Phil said:

@Jonas Long

Have you never seen the SNL Jeopardy sketches!?

I thought I had....I don't even know anymore 

[Phil]

[Phil]

@Orb

The Great Christian Misunderstanding.

The collective ignorance and judgement is very related to the issues with boredom, distraction, substance / emotion rollercoaster etc. Definitely don’t internalize it, it’s judgment which is truly unnatural.