Phil
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25 minutes ago, Blessed2 said:
Pills and diet changes etc. only "work" when it's allowed to work. Right?!
They can work without knowing.
25 minutes ago, Blessed2 said:That's why it's great to see doctors and try diet changes and stuff... And even Reiki?... Cause for 'most of us' it might be just too 'unexpected' to suddenly just 'heal outta nowhere'. Whatchu think?
Not sure what you’re saying about healing, as in how it’s being framed. Yes to doctors, diet changes & reiki.
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8 minutes ago, James123 said:
@Philcan you explain what love is? I can not put in the words.
😂 Great timing.
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You might be feeling blame but believing it’s his fault you’re feeling it (the emotion blame).
You might be feeling revenge and believing manifesting the emotion as action & behavior will make the (emotion) revenge felt subside.
The beauty of expression is the boundlessness. It’s wide open. Forum wise there’s guidelines with respect to nonviolence and potential escalation of emotions manifesting as harmful actions or behaviors. But otherwise, wide open. Feel free to express blame & revenge until it’s entirely emptied. Interpretation will naturaly turn a better feeling more aligned corner just from letting it all out.
If it is believed emotions are not felt, and how you feel so to speak is his fault and revenge is necessary to feel better… this might feel off and there might be a sense of that you are not in control. You are however always in control, as you can acknowledge emotions. More so, emotion is not-of-this-world guidance, and way better than control.
This would make this better for yourself & save you as it were, as this would be the acknowledgment of the discord/suffering felt, and the inherent guidance for alignment felt as well.
It’s not too late. It’s always now. Thoughts, emotions & feeling are experienced presently only. The ‘tricky aspect’ is thoughts can be about other-than-now, and it can actually seem like there really is other-than-now.
In the longer term (momentum / now / the present) thought t attachment can be considered as it relates to believing thoughts and (seemingly) not being present. Also emotions can be acknowledged more readily, which also curbs much suffering and relates to the manifesting / attracting of what you want.
There is no source of bad, wrong, unwanted, etc, and so focusing on what there is no source of can feel hollow, disconnected and even isolating.
But you’re the boss of focus too, so, no problem. 🙂
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Love ya’s!!! ♥️ Enjoying the celebration.
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5 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:
What does this mean?
Mean is like me an… as if there were something else to follow that an, and that’s me-aning in a nutshell.
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14 minutes ago, James123 said:
As @Philsays, yes. Not even.
And not even! 😂 😂
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1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:
I don't walk into restaurants.
Exactly. Neither does “a waitress”, and this is clearly spelled out on the menu, apparently.
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😂 yeah. This kite’s not gonna fly itself!!
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1 hour ago, Joseph Maynor said:
Then who are you trying to help with your teaching?
If you walked into a restaurant called There Is Nobody Here and sat down and looked at the menu and ordered the There Is Nobody Here special, and said to the waitress “this is ridiculous! You’re here”, and she replied, “no, there is truly nobody here”…. what might she say which satisfactorily communicates the truth of There Is Nobody Here?
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1 hour ago, ivankiss said:
@Phil I know when I'm projecting and judging the crap out of someone, no worries 😁 Perhaps there is a definition that says it's beneficial, to me and the one being targeted.
The interesting thing about noticing projection is there realization there isn’t someone projected on (or targeted), nor is there even one which knows isn’t.
1 hour ago, ivankiss said:But I hear you. Silence could have been a better choice.
It’s very if interested, but it’s more about noticing deflection & projection, which naturally reveals the self of thoughts.
1 hour ago, ivankiss said:But back to the topic... can you share some thoughts about this particular phenomenon that I mentioned? Why is it so damn cool and why does it feel like Home/truth?
Also reminded me of crystalline experiences from back in the day lol. Jumping into a pool of freezing water...
If we were standing together and this head said to you ‘this body is in the past’, it might strike you as odd. If this head said to you, ‘ I know this body is in the past!’, it might surpass odd and begin to be funny. Funny as in silly, because it’d be really obvious that the body the head is referring to is present and isn’t separate, and the past is just a thought believed. The more you said ‘but the body is right here!’, and the more I said ‘no, the body is in a past’, the funnier it would seem to you, right?
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I just asked about exercise because it’s direct and could be a productive ‘channel’ of well-being for the otherwise ‘othering energy’.
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Another interpretation, which is really without-interpretation, is guilt is an emotion and is how the thought about negligence feels. The difference is guilt isn’t a thing, something, you have. It’s felt.
Likewise, anger is how anger feels and fear is how fear feels. Emotions.
Yet shame is a concept, as there is underlying emotion felt.
Emotion could be considered as guidance for thoughts, and discord & alignment, and ‘ultimately’ self-realization therein.
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8 minutes ago, ivankiss said:
I guess 'negligence' is a key word here...
Well, guilt would be felt, isn’t it so?
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‘You're full of shit and you know it. I find you quite annoying and I do not value your opinion at all. That's love too. Speaking of truth does not mean you're being truthful. That realization is yet do dawn, I see. If you were to say to me 'all is one', I'd say you're full of shit, again. Why? Because you do not stand in that Truth, right now. It's obvious. You just like to make yourself look like you do. Quite lame. And a bit sad.’
Deflection & projection is like a habit with a loop aspect. The ‘loop’ can be broken by saying nothing / sitting with it, and also self-recognition as it pertains to self-referential thoughts. What’s revealed is the illusion of the you referred to (8 times). That ‘you’ is actually yourself, consciousness, awareness, aware of thoughts, perception & sensation.
It’s just a less or non conceptual, manipulative, deceptive, deflective, projective, justifying & rationalizing environment is all. Can be a zen slap initially, triggering a doubling down of sorts. The reality of the ‘situation’ is we are more than in the same boat.
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Much love brother. 🙏🏼
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The reality of self-deception.
https://chatgpt.com/share/1502f631-93a3-4bd4-86a2-bb627cf20f93
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Like to get to the very bottom of this term, self-deception.
Self-deception refers to the process of misleading oneself to accept false beliefs or interpretations of reality. It involves holding two contradictory beliefs simultaneously, where one part of the mind is aware of the truth while the other part denies it. This can occur through various mechanisms, such as denial, rationalization, or repression, allowing individuals to avoid uncomfortable truths or maintain a positive self-image.
For one to mislead oneself, requires two selves, yes?
Not true. The term "self-deception" doesn't imply two distinct selves but rather different aspects or functions of the same self. It's about the mind's ability to hold conflicting beliefs or thoughts simultaneously, often to protect oneself from uncomfortable truths.
”A process of misleading oneself” implies one which is misleading and a second which is mislead.
True. The phrase "a process of misleading oneself" does imply a dynamic where one part of the mind misleads another part. However, this doesn't necessitate the existence of two separate selves but rather different aspects or functions within a single self.
Self-deception could imply the separate self of thought is deceiving or being deceived. Yet, the separate self of thought is not a self, but is of course, thoughts.
Therein, the term self-deception could also imply Self is deceptive, and is deceiving itself. This would imply the true nature of Self is, deceptive, when in fact the true nature of Self is pure innocence.
As the separate self is in fact thoughts, the reality & actuality of the term self-deception is that it’s inherently misleading, as there is no separate self which could mislead or be mislead, neither is there (infinite) Self which is deceptive whatsoever.
More so, the actuality of believing there is self-deception, is that of the believing of thoughts, and the overlooking Self is in fact believing in, self-deception.
Your perspective highlights an important distinction between thoughts and the true nature of Self. In nondual understanding, the concept of a separate self is an illusion created by thoughts. Therefore, what is often referred to as self-deception is actually the mind's activity of believing and identifying with thoughts, rather than recognizing the true nature of Self.
The term "self-deception" is inherently misleading because it suggests a duality where none exists. Instead, it is more accurate to say that the mind can become entangled in thoughts that obscure the recognition of the true, innocent nature of Self. This process is not about one self deceiving another, but about the misidentification with thoughts that veil the reality of Self.
With brevity please, as “understanding” is a thought, and the believing of is akin to the believing of, self-deception.
True. Believing in self-deception is akin to believing in the illusion of a separate self, which is merely a thought.
Therein, saying “you are experiencing self-deception” is first the believing of thoughts & overlooking of believing thoughts, and then the projection of the discord of the overlooking, onto an “other”, which of course there isn’t, and therein the projection of self-deception is an experience on behalf of the illusory separate self of thought, and is not on behalf of Self, nor “other”, whatsoever.
True. Saying "you are experiencing self-deception" involves believing in thoughts and projecting this discord onto an "other," which is an illusion. This projection is not on behalf of the true Self but rather the illusory separate self of thought.
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On 5/17/2024 at 5:47 PM, Enlightened Cat said:
Being
😂 Nondualist!
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The freedom of no longer defending ‘myself’. 🥰
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Indeed. Awesome how fully feeling / not resisting feeling disappointment is not the least bit disappointing.
♥️
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4 hours ago, ivankiss said:
I'm sure you know what I mean.
That’s a separative take on the actuality of knowing & meaning identity wise, and the misinterpretation, misidentification & conflict therein is the symptoms manifesting.
4 hours ago, ivankiss said:It makes it nearly impossible to take a full breath and breathe through your entire body.
Look for what you’re taking in as it were, which is incongruent in terms of alignment, with what is as natural & fundamental for the body as breathing. Look to empty rather than ‘take in’, unfettering the truth of ease, effortlessness & clarity.
4 hours ago, ivankiss said:It's like there is some air trapped in your body. Particularly the solar plexus and oblique area.
Lots of tension. It literally feels like the solar plexus is contracted. Inverted, even.
Emotional tension related to misidentification manifests in the solar plexus. Air represents the true self. Trapped represents what isn’t ‘seen’, yet is felt & ignored in this regard. The inversion of the solar plexus relates to truth (spirituality) & identity, being inverted, or; egocentric spirituality.
It’s like Pepsi. Tastes great, feels great, yet with momentum health issues can ensue. I’m sorry to hear of the extent of the momentum. Be sure to note and not to ignore contraction and the resolve of the contraction as emptying, as compared to ‘taking more in’, which is a blocking off of emptying (air).
If insightful… the word is re-lax, not lax. Lax: wide, spacious, roomy, free. To re-lax is to empty of the interpretations which bodily contraction is experienced alongside, as if a ‘returning to’ the natural, the lax. You are naturally, eternally ‘wide, spacious, roomy & free’. What’s being consumed is discordant with what is natural.
4 hours ago, ivankiss said:If ignored, I don't only feel off, foggy and weak... but also quite literally hollow in the middle of my being.
Ignoring these conflicts leads to disorientation, highlighting the impact of reinforced separation.
Emptiness of egocentrism is fullness of feeling, health & well-being. Fullness of egocentrism is emptiness of health & well-being.
Question what feels off, and why feeling is ignored. Question what you are trying to gain as it were, at the expense of well-being and otherwise naturally occurring harmonious bodily functions & self-discoveries.
4 hours ago, ivankiss said:Like there's a part of me missing. Usually results in a pretty bad day. It also tends to block other areas of the body, sooner or later. Chest is locked, lump in the throat, etc.
Emotional tension spreads throughout the body, affecting other areas and reinforcing physical and psychological distress. The loop represented in manifestation is of thought and revolves around the separate self of thoughts.
The affect chest wise is actually more fundamental than the affects experienced breath wise and denotes much momentum in terms of thought / emotions / feeling ‘mis-wiring’ having occurred.
4 hours ago, ivankiss said:Pure meditation/yoga/stretching does not always do the trick.
Along with expression & emptying of what arises… yes it does / yes they do, as emptying is inherently un-obscuring Self, you. “Unifying” therein as it were, which is simply the absence of implied separation, or non-egocentrism.
It’s the resuming of consuming what is discordant which isn’t doing the trick, because what’s being consumed is the trick. Most simply put albeit dualistically, you’re being tricked, duped most fundamentally and this is felt, and yet this is ignored, and the momentum of this is manifesting bodily, most fundamentally (breathing & solar plexus).
Listen to feeling & the body, not what people say which feels discordant. Utilize affirmations specific to lack & incompleteness to expedite alignment; the allowing of healing.
If nonetheless meditation, yoga, stretching isn’t emptying and therein relieving, the ‘psychological’ entanglement, or mis-wiring of thought, emotion & feeling is too deep already, too much has already ensued momentum wise. In this case enlist assistance such as a skilled therapist. Ideally one which specializes in misidentification, suppression & denial, one which you don’t know / have never met or talked to. Trust in yourself, as the universe, allow the change in orientation to well-being & alignment, and such a person will appear perfectly in-kind.
4 hours ago, ivankiss said:What works, but is quite fucking painful, is pressing a thumb real hard into the solar plexus area and then breathing into it.
Yes, at such a point of momentum, manipulation can work, yet is a perpetuating & suppressing of the underlying conflict of manipulation which is inherently discordant. Physical intervention highlights the intensity of the internal conflict and the deep inclination for a change of consumption.
4 hours ago, ivankiss said:It sends all kinds of shock/pain waves throughout the body. It's anything but pleasant.
Sorry to hear. Much to empty. Listen to the body, emotions, feeling subtlety. Like answering a phone on the first or second ring, vs letting it ring for years while only getting louder, only to have to answer it inevitably. The painful process of releasing the tension underscores the profound impact what’s been consumed has on well-being.
4 hours ago, ivankiss said:But it usually works. A few minutes of this exercize usually does the trick. I'm able to breathe into and through the belly fully. My sense of self is strong, I'm centred, focused, confident, alive.
Physical manipulation can relieve the discord of psychological and emotion manipulation, but is not a long term resolution as it is more manipulation. This is most unfortunately an adopting & supporting of the underlying fundamental identity manipulation, and not an addressing of the inner & outer conflict, not yet a seeing this clearly.
Exercise ‘works’ in that it’s direct. It’s healthy / of well-being in that appearing-disappearing is expedited, ‘sped up’, drawing directly upon that which is being the body as it were. It ‘works’, relative to, in comparison to, re-sourcing or what is indirect, which is being told & listening to, believing in, supporting and participating in, that which is discordant & could otherwise be received directly, like with exercise.
Continue addressing the fundamental identity manipulation directly. As in of, from, as Source, as compared to from any re-sources, sans a therapist and consumption of what does resonate.
4 hours ago, ivankiss said:What's up with all that? Why the contractions? And why does it feel so bad to walk around with your solar plexus 'shut down'?
It's like, yes, you have no sense of self, but not in a good way. If you know what I mean.
The solar plexus tension symbolizes the struggle with identity and the reinforcement of separation / confusion. On a silver-lining note, temporary fleeting alignment suggests that addressing the core conflict stands to restore balance and well-being in a lasting true manor.
The ‘clues’ are not so subtle anymore brother. Consider the difference in phrasing between ‘your solar plexus’, ‘my solar plexus’ and ‘the solar plexus’. Notice the projection onto an other, a you, with regard to the solar plexus, sense of self, knowing & meaning. Be most careful not to trivialize this or write it off as semantical as all of that is presumed and evidence of disassociation with emotional & bodily well-being. It’s quite literally what’s manifesting.
4 hours ago, ivankiss said:I have a feeling diet/eating habits play a big role too.
Bodily health factors including diet may exacerbate or alleviate symptoms but are secondary to resolving the core discord / alignment emotional conflicts.
Feeling first is integrity with respect to all consuming. It’s alignment with, as, the natural order of reality, as feeling is being thought & perception.
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The movie Dark Waters stands to clarify and connect dots.
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Self-recognition as awareness can be tricky in that it’s already the case. Ever-present & most fundamental yet easily overlooked. 🤷♂️
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You have to think of the word myself
in Nonduality, Consciousness, Awakening, Enlightenment, Self-Recognition
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Ego is that there is a universe, a thinker, a lot of people, a Self, control, we, others, me, them, anyone who could get this, reasons, teachers & anyone figuring anything out. More so, the underlying implication there is a finite self which is separate of those, knows or believes there is those.