ConsciousDreamer666 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Just finished a meditation session, for some seconds it felt like they weren´t any boundaries between me and rest of reality. If I´m nothing and this nothing expands infinitely in all directions and creates forms and colours that means that I´m not separated from a human body that is 3000km from here? Because is all a field of nothingness. Is that non duality? Probably not because I´m trying to grasp it with the mind/conceptualizing 😅 But I thought in asking 😊 Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 While nonduality ultimately can not be grasped with the finite mind, this and much more can be. There’s certainly nothing wrong with talking about nonduality. Self-realization is the whole point of this forum and the most worthwhile ‘thing’ to talk about. Questioning & inspecting is not per se conceptualizing. Would it be accurate to say, that in the meditative fizzling out & absence of thought, the reality of feeling was unobscured & self-evident… and then in hindsight, thoughts arose (about boundaries, bodies, etc)? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) Are there boundaries in reality? What is a boundary? I think the answer is probably yes and no just to keep things practical in the first instance. It depends on what perspective we're considering. We're a multiplicity just as much as we're a unity. Great question! Sometimes the question is better than the answer. That's a trip to realize. Questions last, answers usually don't. Edited January 4 by Joseph Maynor Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConsciousDreamer666 Posted January 5 Author Share Posted January 5 13 hours ago, Phil said: While nonduality ultimately can not be grasped with the finite mind, this and much more can be. There’s certainly nothing wrong with talking about nonduality. Self-realization is the whole point of this forum and the most worthwhile ‘thing’ to talk about. Questioning & inspecting is not per se conceptualizing. Would it be accurate to say, that in the meditative fizzling out & absence of thought, the reality of feeling was unobscured & self-evident… and then in hindsight, thoughts arose (about boundaries, bodies, etc)? @Phil Yes 😊 13 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said: Are there boundaries in reality? What is a boundary? Well, when I was meditating I got to a point where I was breathing so consciously, the air of 'outside' became 'my air', and 'my body' became and 'outside' body. The feeling of my body existing 'outside' material reality stopped, and I felt like my body was completely One with 'Material Reality'. It was a very deep feeling of unity. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 5 hours ago, ConsciousDreamer666 said: Well, when I was meditating I got to a point where I was breathing so consciously, the air of 'outside' became 'my air', and 'my body' became and 'outside' body. The feeling of my body existing 'outside' material reality stopped, and I felt like my body was completely One with 'Material Reality'. It was a very deep feeling of unity. There is a unity. There's also separateness. And also we don't need to get hung up on the issue too. It's like node A, node B, the link or relation between node A and B, and also Transcendence. That's the blah blah that I prefer. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceejay Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 If there were no boundaries, you would be able to walk through the concrete wall. You know that if you run into the concrete wall in your room, you will get hurt. So you know how to interact with a concrete wall, and therefore that concrete wall does not cause you any issues. It does not cause you any issues, because you have learnt to deal with it. When you meditate, you are better able to correctly deal with the walls inside your mind, that makes you feel claustrophobic. Hence, you feel a sense of liberation which you perceive as boundless. But, there are boundaries in this universe, everywhere. Your job is to deal with them. With lots of meditation, you might feel like you can levitate away, or fly away, beyond this universe. This does not mean your body can do the same. It also does not mean you don't have a body. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James123 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 On 1/4/2024 at 9:49 PM, ConsciousDreamer666 said: Just finished a meditation session, for some seconds it felt like they weren´t any boundaries between me and rest of reality. If I´m nothing and this nothing expands infinitely in all directions and creates forms and colours that means that I´m not separated from a human body that is 3000km from here? Because is all a field of nothingness. Is that non duality? Probably not because I´m trying to grasp it with the mind/conceptualizing 😅 But I thought in asking 😊 Non duality is literally completely genuinely NOT KNOWING. FORGETTING EVERYTHING. BEING A UNBORN BABY. Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConsciousDreamer666 Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 6 hours ago, James123 said: Non duality is literally completely genuinely NOT KNOWING. FORGETTING EVERYTHING. BEING A UNBORN BABY. 🤞💥Got it my friend @James123 I Will keep letting go of thoughts and ideas and conclusions until nothing is left ... Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James123 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 7 hours ago, ConsciousDreamer666 said: 🤞💥Got it my friend @James123 I Will keep letting go of thoughts and ideas and conclusions until nothing is left ... Amazing 😍😍😍 Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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