Reena Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 How are thoughts different from emotions and which comes first? Quote Mention So basically I'm an autistic INFJ BPD sigma Pisces female with anger and CPTSD issues. Wow wow. My plate looks full. I Couldn't have been weirder than that. Now I get why I'm so idiosyncratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solereproduction Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 (edited) On 11/21/2023 at 1:37 PM, Reena said: How are thoughts different from emotions and which comes first? honest answer, Thoughts are ideas and events remembered from educated or experienced. Emotions are the personal reactions by everyone involved adapting to the moment about past events and current experiences. Edited November 22, 2023 by solereproduction Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Thought and emotion exist as in stand apart from consciousness via appearing as the spheres, and don’t exist as separate (of consciousness). It’s like believing the thoughts chicken & egg, overlooking consciousness, and pondering which came first. The only relevance of thought & emotion is manifesting, or, consciously creating. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) This is a thought — Trump is great! Emotions are how you feel about that thought. Feelings can differ widely sometimes as to a thought. Here’s another one — There are no separate selves! Emotions are how you feel about that thought. And that can differ depending on different people. Edited November 24, 2023 by Joseph Maynor Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solereproduction Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) On 11/21/2023 at 1:37 PM, Reena said: How are thoughts different from emotions and which comes first? Thinking is navigating time while spaced apart in your own skin. Thoughts are comparing those events already happened and current events happening. Emotions are reactions to both thinking and thoughts to how past worked into current events and what to do next, now. Edited December 7, 2023 by solereproduction Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Unless of course time is thinking. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solereproduction Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Phil said: Unless of course time is thinking. One can think about time left adapting as displaced. One can think about time spent staying alive so far. One can think imaging life is larger than actually evolving a reality can be formed leaving the person dreaming the possibilities into fruition in charge of everyone believing now isn't eternity being paid to keep every next generation obeying ideas life exceeds their natural time displaced. next thing people know humanity is falling apart and nobody knows how to fix it forward. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 @solereproduction Misidentified as a thinker, it would seem so. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solereproduction Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Phil said: @solereproduction Misidentified as a thinker, it would seem so. Thinking is navigating the situation not bumping into everything else and not being bumped into by anyone else evolving the same way, at the same time, since each was specifically displaced replacing their previous generation gaps lived so far. Edited December 8, 2023 by solereproduction Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 @solereproduction That is thinking. Thinking is apparent in accordance with direct experience. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 On 11/24/2023 at 4:41 PM, Joseph Maynor said: Here’s another one — There are no separate selves! Emotions are how you feel about that thought. And that can differ depending on different people. 😄 Quote Mention There must be an effortless way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 On 11/24/2023 at 9:41 AM, Joseph Maynor said: And that can differ depending on different people. Misidentified as a person / not in accordance with direct experience. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solereproduction Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 15 minutes ago, Phil said: Misidentified as a person / not in accordance with direct experience. Direct experience at doing what? Adapting as displaced where genetics eternally separating each active reproduction added forward now being educated that isn't possible in every society manifested since dawn of civilization. What has been misidentified genetically here? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 @solereproduction There is neither a thinker thinking nor a doer doing (or a knower knowing or an understander understanding) in accordance with direct experience. Misidentification certainly doesn’t need a thinker, doer, knower, understander or genetics to occur. Such a weight to carry. The key is innocence. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solereproduction Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Phil said: @solereproduction There is neither a thinker thinking nor a doer doing (or a knower knowing or an understander understanding) in accordance with direct experience. Misidentification certainly doesn’t need a thinker, doer, knower, understander or genetics to occur. Such a weight to carry. The key is innocence. the innocent won't project life is anything other than all there is to being alive as ancestrally here, now. One just adapts to their proportionate time living forward as displaced. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 @solereproduction Not the innocent, innocence. As in absolute, nondual, without opposite. Fabric of reality if you will. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solereproduction Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/8/2023 at 4:35 PM, Phil said: @solereproduction Not the innocent, innocence. As in absolute, nondual, without opposite. Fabric of reality if you will. How does balance come to exist without equal and opposite movements past, currently taking place, future events expanding in any direction and contracting motions from every angle creating combined results evolving forward at the same time? Perpetual balancing doesn't happen without perpetual motion present. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 @solereproduction Balance doesn’t “come to exist”, the so called thought “balance” simply appears, and is or isn’t believed to define perception, contingent on ignorance, or misidentification if you will. Same for “past” & “future… “these” are thoughts, and these thoughts don’t actually define perception. Put simpler, put to the past and future to see the truth of wha’s being said here. Or, actually attempt to go the past or future, to see this is not possible, because one can not “go to” thoughts one is prior to, aware of, and appearing as. Likewise, “evolving forward” is a conceptualization. The actuality is that it is, a conceptualization. Same for “perpetual balancing” & “perpetual motion”. That one thought doesn’t happen without the other thought, is, a thought. Conceptualizing is other than acknowledging emotions. It’s aversion, or away from, seeing the untruth or falsity of resentment. Put another way, delusion doesn’t ’lead to’ Truth. 🤍 Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solereproduction Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Phil said: @solereproduction Balance doesn’t “come to exist”, the so called thought “balance” simply appears, and is or isn’t believed to define perception, contingent on ignorance, or misidentification if you will. Same for “past” & “future… “these” are thoughts, and these thoughts don’t actually define perception. Put simpler, put to the past and future to see the truth of wha’s being said here. Or, actually attempt to go the past or future, to see this is not possible, because one can not “go to” thoughts one is prior to, aware of, and appearing as. Likewise, “evolving forward” is a conceptualization. The actuality is that it is, a conceptualization. Same for “perpetual balancing” & “perpetual motion”. That one thought doesn’t happen without the other thought, is, a thought. Conceptualizing is other than acknowledging emotions. It’s aversion, or away from, seeing the untruth or falsity of resentment. uniqueness among total sum of unique results balancing when occupying time inhabiting space mutually aligned as ancestrally here demonstrates otherwise. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, solereproduction said: uniqueness among total sum of unique results balancing when occupying time inhabiting space mutually aligned as ancestrally here demonstrates otherwise. Seems to demonstrate otherwise, until it’s noticed, ‘these’ are thoughts, conceptualizations, and not, perception. In Buddism, experientially, this might be referred to as extreme thought attachment, ignorance & arrogance. Buddism as in The Buddha, or, Enlightened One. In psychological terminology; cognitive dissonance. But most simply put; suffering & denial (of suffering). It’s fine, and there’s no judgement here, as this suffering has no actual effect on anyone or anything. Isolating, perhaps. Experientially problematic, maybe, idk. But effect on anyone or anything; absolutely none. Bending the spoon is impossible. It’s like believing the thoughts chicken & egg, overlooking consciousness, and pondering which came first. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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