How to be free from duality?

[Orb]

6 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Causality.  God is the cause of the universe.  The universe didn't cause itself. That's impossible. 

Is there an interest in Self Realization? Or just building up walls of knowledge and learning theory/holding beliefs?

[Someone here]

5 minutes ago, Orb said:

Is there an interest in Self Realization? Or just building up walls of knowledge and learning theory/holding beliefs?

I already know who I am .

[Isagi Yoichi]

 @Someone here

[Orb]

9 minutes ago, Someone here said:

I already know who I am .

Who is that?

[Phil]

2 hours ago, Omar Osama said:

How can someone overcome the duality perspective?

 

how to stop believing that there is a god and there is also me?

First…

Are you aware that ‘overcome the duality perspective’ is a thought?

And that ‘how to stop believing’ is a thought?

 

It can be helpful, if needed, to ‘look’ for these in perception (seeing, hearing, etc) and sensation.

 

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

Its unfortunate that even @Phil himself is an atheist. 

Try to appreciate this is like a child hearing there’s no Santa Clause for the first time and name calling. 

Obviously there’s no Santa Clause… for Santa Clause. 

[Someone here]

2 minutes ago, Orb said:

Who is that?

It can't be put into words . But nevertheless...I'm pure being ..pure existence..pure present .

[Someone here]

2 minutes ago, Phil said:

Try to appreciate this is like a child hearing there’s no Santa Clause for the first time and name calling. 

👍 

[Isagi Yoichi]

Just now, Phil said:

First…

Are you aware that ‘overcome the duality perspective’ is a thought?

And that ‘how to stop believing’ is a thought?

 

yeah I am not trying to be non-dualistic, I am just asking if is it understanding duality that can lead me to recognize duality

 

or a specific practice will eventually lead me to recognize duality?

[Orb]

10 minutes ago, Someone here said:

It can't be put into words . But nevertheless...I'm pure being ..pure existence..pure present .

Then why is there debating over there being God and a separate self called You?

[Phil]

6 minutes ago, Omar Osama said:

 

yeah I am not trying to be non-dualistic, I am just asking if is it understanding duality that can lead me to recognize duality

 

or a specific practice will eventually lead me to recognize duality?

I’m not suggesting being non-dualistic or understanding duality or a practice to lead. No worries. 🙂

 

2 hours ago, Omar Osama said:

How can someone overcome the duality perspective?

 

how to stop believing that there is a god and there is also me?

As a first step… I’m just asking if you’re aware of the thoughts which arose and have been shared. This is meant simply, plainly, straightforward. 

 

[Isagi Yoichi]

3 minutes ago, Phil said:

As a first step… I’m just asking if you’re aware of the thoughts which arose and have been shared. This is meant simply, plainly, straightforward. 

 

 

No, i wasn't aware

Edited October 26, 2023 by Omar Osama

[Someone here]

@Phil just seeking clarity here...what exactly is "God " for you ?

Edited October 26, 2023 by Someone here

[Phil]

2 minutes ago, Omar Osama said:

 

No, i wasn't aware

The thought arose, ‘No, I wasn’t aware’.

And there is awareness of that thought, as it was then shared (typed).

Yes?

So in a simple straightforward manor, you are aware of this experience of thoughts arising & being shared, yes? 

[Phil]

4 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Phil just seeking clarity here...what exactly is "God " for you ?

First & foremost; infinite. That which the word God points to is not a finite person, animal, being or entity… would you agree with this?

[Isagi Yoichi]

5 minutes ago, Phil said:

 

So in a simple straightforward manor, you are aware of this experience of thoughts arising & being shared, yes? 

yes

 

 

[Phil]

Just now, Omar Osama said:

yes

Second…

Now that it has been noticed & acknowledged you are aware of the experience of thoughts… 

What can you share about the awareness which is aware of experience?

(There are no right or wrong answers. 🙂)

[Isagi Yoichi]

4 minutes ago, Phil said:

What can you share about the awareness which is aware of experience?

 

relieving 

[James123]

2 hours ago, Omar Osama said:

How can someone overcome the duality perspective?

 

how to stop believing that there is a god and there is also me?

 

 

 

Don't listen the thoughts, don't believe them. Than see what is left.

[Someone here]

12 minutes ago, Phil said:

First & foremost; infinite. That which the word God points to is not a finite person, animal, being or entity… would you agree with this?

Yes it's not a human Or animal or finite entity/creature ...

But when you say it's not even a "being"..then what's left ? Them God =nothing at all ?

[Phil]

2 minutes ago, Omar Osama said:

relieving 

Yes, for sure. 🙂

 

2 hours ago, Omar Osama said:

How can someone overcome the duality perspective?

 

how to stop believing that there is a god and there is also me?

When thoughts arise about having to overcome something and having to stop something… it’s relieving to be aware that these are thoughts which arose… and that nothing needs to be done to be aware as the awareness which is already  aware that these are, thoughts. Relief indeed! 😅 

 

What else can you share about awareness?