Isagi Yoichi Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 How can someone overcome the duality perspective? how to stop believing that there is a god and there is also me? Quote Mention for coding & software engineering services message me on discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 51 minutes ago, Omar Osama said: How can someone overcome the duality perspective? Which duality perspective? 51 minutes ago, Omar Osama said: how to stop believing that there is a god and there is also me? There is in fact a god ..as in a creator of the universe ..and there is in fact you . Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isagi Yoichi Posted October 26, 2023 Author Share Posted October 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, Someone here said: There is in fact a god ..as in a creator of the universe ..and there is in fact you . you are not getting it, Quote Mention for coding & software engineering services message me on discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Omar Osama said: you are not getting it, Not getting what exactly? Spare me your short-sighted posts and clarify and elaborate your point please . Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 20 minutes ago, Someone here said: There is in fact a god ..as in a creator of the universe ..and there is in fact you . How do you know this? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Omar Osama said: How can someone overcome the duality perspective? By the recognition that youre already not the "someone" in that thought. Ive heard Mandy use the Author analogy which is a great one. Imagine you were writing a book and believed you were the character inside the story you were writing as you wrote the book, and then as the character in the story you tried to get out of the book, not recognizing you are the author and already are free. 1 hour ago, Omar Osama said: How to stop believing that there is a god and there is also me? By the recognition that this is just a thought arising and not getting entangled in it. What comes first: Thought and then Being? Or first there is Being (The Self) and then it(You) appears as thoughts? Which one? Edited October 26, 2023 by Orb Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Daniel said: How do you know this? That there is a you is self-evident. Every sane human being knows that he/she exists. Secondly..you think this extremely delicate universe with billions of galaxies and planets and creatures just arised out of coincidence? Lol atheism is funny . Its unfortunate that even @Phil himself is an atheist. Edited October 26, 2023 by Someone here Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isagi Yoichi Posted October 26, 2023 Author Share Posted October 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Someone here said: That there is a you is self-evident. Every sane human being knows that he/she exists. that is ego Quote Mention for coding & software engineering services message me on discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Omar Osama said: that is ego Call it whatever you want. You can call it cheesecake if you want to . Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isagi Yoichi Posted October 26, 2023 Author Share Posted October 26, 2023 “Those who support ‘duality’ (fragmenting existence; assuming there is a God AND there is everything ELSE) are contaminated!” Quote Mention for coding & software engineering services message me on discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isagi Yoichi Posted October 26, 2023 Author Share Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Someone here said: There is in fact a god ..as in a creator of the universe ..and there is in fact you . the literal definition of duality is what you have wrote lmao Edited October 26, 2023 by Omar Osama Quote Mention for coding & software engineering services message me on discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Someone here said: That there is a you is self-evident. Every sane human being knows that he/she exists. We know that we exist, yes, but do we know who or what we actually are? We tend to believe that we're this temporary form that will eventually die, that has a particular name, personality traits, history, etc., but this is where we're mistaken. 6 minutes ago, Someone here said: Secondly..you think this extremely delicate universe with billions of galaxies and planets and creatures just arised out of coincidence? Lol atheism is funny . Its unfortunate that even @Phil himself is an atheist. I've got no idea, quite honestly - I have certain beliefs about how and why it all arose, but they're all just theories, I don't know them to be true. Is it all the work of God? Who or what even is God? Again, I've got no idea. I'd go along with Jesus' assertion that God is love, and that therefore all manifestation arose out of love, essentially, but again, that's little more than a hunch. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) Duality is not a particular perspective, all thoughts imply a duality. The Self is perspective-less. Thoughts arising right now are proof that you are free already, proof that you are No-Mind already. Edited October 26, 2023 by Orb Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Omar Osama said: the literal definition of duality is what you have wrote lmao You ? I thought there is no such thing as me.... Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 @Someone here So you're essentially inferring that God exists, is that right? It sounds like you believe that God exists, whereas I asked how you know It exists. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Daniel said: We know that we exist, yes, but do we know who or what we actually are? We tend to believe that we're this temporary form that will eventually die, that has a particular name, personality traits, history, etc., but this is where we're mistaken. You are exactly what you appear to be . Nothing complicated..go look at the mirror. 11 minutes ago, Daniel said: I've got no idea, quite honestly - I have certain beliefs about how and why it all arose, but they're all just theories, I don't know them to be true. Is it all the work of God? Who or what even is God? Again, I've got no idea. I'd go along with Jesus' assertion that God is love, and that therefore all manifestation arose out of love, essentially, but again, that's little more than a hunch. Also by a simple logic...you think no one designed this phone or PC your using now? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, Daniel said: @Someone here So you're essentially inferring that God exists, is that right? It sounds like you believe that God exists, whereas I asked how you know It exists. Causality. God is the cause of the universe. The universe didn't cause itself. That's impossible. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isagi Yoichi Posted October 26, 2023 Author Share Posted October 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Someone here said: You are exactly what you appear to be . Nothing complicated..go look at the mirror. 19 minutes ago, Daniel said: thats ego #2 Quote Mention for coding & software engineering services message me on discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Omar Osama said: thats ego #2 Cheesecake #2 Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isagi Yoichi Posted October 26, 2023 Author Share Posted October 26, 2023 lmao this conversation is funny Quote Mention for coding & software engineering services message me on discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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