How much do you Influence your Kids?

[Orb]

Did you have your kids have the same diet as you? 

 

Did you influence your kids with your religion or way of viewing the world?

 

Where do you draw the line? When do you impose your values on your kids and what areas of life do you let them learn their own lessons in? 

[Phil]

2 minutes ago, Orb said:

Did you have your kids have the same diet as you? 

No. 

2 minutes ago, Orb said:

Did you influence your kids with your religion or way of viewing the world?

No. 

2 minutes ago, Orb said:

Where do you draw the line?

I don’t. 

2 minutes ago, Orb said:

When do you impose your values on your kids and what areas of life do you let them learn their own lessons in? 

I don’t. All areas. 

[Orb]

@Phil what a breath of fresh air. From most families I see it's pretty normal to try to brainwash your kids.

[Phil]

@Orb

Yeah. I’m into breaking the cycle. 

[Orb]

@Phil what if your kids end up doing that to their kids? Well I guess it's not in your hands. 

[Phil]

@Orb

At least they’d have a sensible grandpa. 

[Orb]

@Phil awesome. I can't wait to be a grandpa! 

 

I mean I've thought about the future for my family a lot and it seems that while some principles like love, acceptance, listening-first can be shared - any kind of "legacy" can shift or crumble. 

 

But life is always in Flux.

[Phil]

@Orb

One aspect of parenting I’ve found to be key is not trying to be their source, just their parent. What is within them which guides can never shift or crumble. This dude surely will. Already is. 

[Orb]

@Phil damn, that's good. 

 

I hear Christians say something similar "That is really God's child, not my child". 

 

They don't often practice it though 😦

[Phil]

@Orb

Yeah. That’s what I say when they get into trouble. Hey… ain’t my kid. That’s God’s kid.

Lol. 

[fopylo]

@Phil Do you give them any life advice? Do they ask for advice similar to what's asked here in this forum? Or are they already masters of their emotions?

[Orb]

43 minutes ago, Phil said:

@Orb

Yeah. That’s what I say when they get into trouble. Hey… ain’t my kid. That’s God’s kid.

Lol. 

😂

[Pluto]

Beautifully said  ~

[Phil]

On 5/6/2023 at 2:08 PM, fopylo said:

@Phil Do you give them any life advice?

It depends what’s meant by life advice. If what’s meant is what they should do or need to do, then no. If what’s meant is have I shared that there is discord & alignment, that all is love, do I offer a more aligned thought or view occasionally, do they have dreamboards, and have I shared the emotional scale and other tools, then yes. 

On 5/6/2023 at 2:08 PM, fopylo said:

Do they ask for advice similar to what's asked here in this forum?

Endless unique snowflakes, all the same snow. So yes & no. 

On 5/6/2023 at 2:08 PM, fopylo said:

Or are they already masters of their emotions?

As consciousness there is an experience of & exploration of, and guidance of emotions, yes. Of course. 

Is there someone who masters, no. Of course not. 

[fopylo]

On 5/9/2023 at 4:27 PM, Phil said:

If what’s meant is have I shared that there is discord & alignment, that all is love, do I offer a more aligned thought or view occasionally, do they have dreamboards, and have I shared the emotional scale and other tools, then yes. 

@Phil Must be very nice to have a father like you, that your kids can be comfortable with you and you can help guide them to their source. There is some benefit in being next to you 24/7 and get help quickly when you need it. It's a cheat code lol 😂

 

On 5/9/2023 at 4:27 PM, Phil said:

On 5/6/2023 at 9:08 PM, fopylo said:

Do they ask for advice similar to what's asked here in this forum?

Endless unique snowflakes, all the same snow. So yes & no. 

With the snowflake metaphor, do you mean that there are endless unique types of "problems" but they all stem from the same thing?

 

On 5/9/2023 at 4:27 PM, Phil said:

On 5/6/2023 at 9:08 PM, fopylo said:

Or are they already masters of their emotions?

As consciousness there is an experience of & exploration of, and guidance of emotions, yes. Of course. 

Is there someone who masters, no. Of course not. 

What I really meant to ask is are they living well? Do they seem to suffer sometimes?

[Phil]

17 hours ago, fopylo said:

@Phil Must be very nice to have a father like you, that your kids can be comfortable with you and you can help guide them to their source. There is some benefit in being next to you 24/7 and get help quickly when you need it. It's a cheat code lol 😂

Well… this can’t really guide this to this since this is already this.

Not sure if a cheat code which points out there’s no cheat code is really a cheat code. 

And there’s also the factor of ‘no one is wise in their own village’. 

 

17 hours ago, fopylo said:

 

With the snowflake metaphor, do you mean that there are endless unique types of "problems" but they all stem from the same thing?

I agree with that, but no, I meant people. 

 

17 hours ago, fopylo said:

 

What I really meant to ask is are they living well? Do they seem to suffer sometimes?

Suffering is only direct. 

[fopylo]

@Phil

9 hours ago, Phil said:

And there’s also the factor of ‘no one is wise in their own village’.

Didn't get it

 

9 hours ago, Phil said:

Suffering is only direct.

So you'll never assume a mute person is suffering?

What if the person doesn't know he's suffering?

What if I am suffering yet I keep suppressing and ignoring, so nobody knows I'm suffering, and the suffering just continues...

[Phil]

12 hours ago, fopylo said:

Didn't get it

It has to do with beliefs and attachment. 

 

12 hours ago, fopylo said:

So you'll never assume a mute person is suffering?

That would be the assumption(s) there’s a you, people and suffering. 

 

12 hours ago, fopylo said:

What if the person doesn't know he's suffering?

That would be the assumption people know. 

 

12 hours ago, fopylo said:

What if I am suffering yet I keep suppressing and ignoring, so nobody knows I'm suffering, and the suffering just continues...

Inspect what is, what’s true instead of ignoring. Start expressing instead of suppressing. 

[fopylo]

@Phil

10 hours ago, Phil said:

23 hours ago, fopylo said:

So you'll never assume a mute person is suffering?

That would be the assumption(s) there’s a you, people and suffering.

When people here on the forum talk about their suffering, you and others appear to give advice, assuming they are suffering. And how do you know they are suffering?

 

Are you saying suffering doesn't exist? Didn't the buddha say something along the lines of "Life is suffering"?

11 hours ago, Phil said:

Inspect what is, what’s true instead of ignoring. Start expressing instead of suppressing.

... So then why are you telling me this?

What makes you think I need to inspect and express?

[Phil]

14 hours ago, fopylo said:

@Phil

When people here on the forum talk about their suffering, you and others appear to give advice, assuming they are suffering. And how do you know they are suffering?

On 5/12/2023 at 8:39 AM, Phil said:

That would be the assumption(s) there’s a you, people and suffering. 

On 5/12/2023 at 8:39 AM, Phil said:

That would be the assumption people know. 

On 5/12/2023 at 8:39 AM, Phil said:

It has to do with beliefs and attachment. 

 

 

Life is suffering in the same way Schrödinger's cat is alive.

Which is to say, that it isn’t. 

The truth is simpler.