Indisguise
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4 minutes ago, Robed Mystic said:
I just meet arrogance with arrogance.
That's also what I meant by "please be nice to each other"😅 doesn't only apply to you of course
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1 minute ago, Robed Mystic said:
Its all good. This might be like therapy for some people. I could be wrong but it seems that for some reason they seem to have a lot of built up, repressed animosity towards Actualized and I guess I'm the punching bag. If it helps for them to get it out of their system then I'm fine with that.
@Robed Mystic Perfectly fine with that!!
Just the whole "you're not awake" thing is kinda unnecessary.
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*me, sitting with dry, red eyes in front of my computer, watching this thread turn into unconstructive, personal accusations*
Guys and gals, please be nice to each other - and ask yourself: is it really worth it?
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2 hours ago, Adeptus Psychonautica said:
I see a lot of comments which will use some variant of the following in order to justify why we should listen to Leo "listen to the teachings not the teacher" which sounds reasonable on face value, but at some point you have to make a judgement call on whether or not the teacher has got any grasp of the thing they are teaching.
Good point. It's not possible to separate teacher from teaching.
Becase there's no such thing as "the teaching" as something in its own right. If there was, people wouldn't listen to Gurus and teachers in the first place.
He is just a dude, definitely - but at the same time, he's not just a dude.
He will literally gaslight people into their own peril, because he lacks compassion and embodiment. It's still an intellectual game to him, even though the stage has changed from "philosophy" to "spirituality" and "realizations".
At the same time, he provides immense amounts of value - for free. So a pure anti-Leo campaign wouldn't be appropriate.
Go pick cherries.
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6 hours ago, Newbie dude said:
How to understand consciousness if it cannot be pointed to?
The first problem we need to see when it comes to "understanding consciousness" is this: trying to point at consciousness or trying to become aware of cosnciousness is like trying to touch the tip of your finger with the tip of your finger.
You can't turn around and look at the very thing which is looking, and that's exactly the central issue.
The only way to "know" the tip of your finger is to be the tip of your finger, which already is the case. The tip of your finger doesn't have to achieve anything in order to be what/who it already is, except:
let go of the thought that consciousness is "something", in the sense of something that can somehow be grasped at all, either with the mind, or with the senses, or even with consciousness itself.
"It" (consciousness) is not something that can enter consciousness, in other words, you cannot become conscious of consicousness (at least not in the conventional sense).
Consicousness cannot be an object of your knowledge/perception/awareness.
Not because it is exceedlingly difficult or anything like that, but simply because the problem itself is utterly and completely meaningless.
If you thought that it was possible to touch the tip of your finger with the tip of your finger, you would completely wear youself out in futility and frustration.
And in fact, this may be necessary for you to understand the meaninglessness of the basic assumption of your enterprise.
And this is the basic idea behind Zen Koans; the master poses a meaningless problem which cannot be groqued with the mind, which has not logical answer and which can't be explained in any way whatsoever.
Again; not because the Koan is extremely complicated and difficult, but because the attempt of finding an "answer" is just the wrong approach.
And so consciousness is said to be void, emptiness.
Emptiness is not a quality of consciousness, it's not something that "it is".
Here's a Koan for you:
"Show me nothing".
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11 minutes ago, Ges said:
That's not what's annoying me.
What is?
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I appreciate so much that I can hear... Sometimes I just cannot believe that music exists...
Was in a classical concert toady, it was... incredible, just incredible.
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Just wanted to share this wonderful, wonderful movie with you, it's one of my all-time favourites!
Enjoy!😄❤️
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3 hours ago, DMT Elf said:
I also see why he rubs people the wrong way. It's because he's extremely blunt and to the point leaving virtually no room for game playing/mental masturbation. With Leo, either you're serious or you're not and there's no middle ground.
I'd say it's actually the other way round.
Leo's teaching style is one of the most intellectually stimulating. There is more than enough room to play mental games. His videos are hours long, talking about something which essentially can't be talked about. And "mental masturbation" is a huge problem in his forum.
He is indeed a very serious person. Which is certainly useful up to a point. But what "should" happen when one is as "spiritually advanced" as Leo claims is that the seriousness with which one carries oneself and views life, diminishes and gives way to a childlike sincerity and un-seriousness that recognises that spirituality and enlightenment are not serious at all.
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4 hours ago, Cupcake said:
Let's go to Africa and take a picture with a poor child. Just a picture.
@Cupcake What do you mean?
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4 hours ago, Mandy said:
When we don't NEED friendships and relationships, we know when to say no, we allow ourselves the option of saying no. Love knows when to say no. It doesn't need to please anybody else, it doesn't need anything from anybody else, because it already thoroughly loves. Out of that real friendship blossoms.
Beautifully said, and quite true.
@bardh Whatever happens, happens. That's the (nondual) allowing which is neither in your control, nor out of your control, it simply is.
It's existence allowing itself, by existing - that is Love. All you can do is notice, that whatever is the case, is the case.
Don't allow people to take advantage of you. Disallowing that is also, what is. Everything that is, is, and everything is (thereby) already allowed, including the disallowing.
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I appreciate that I was accepted for the topic of my Master's thesis that I applied for... that makes me happy every time I think about it.🙂
I appreciate that the weather is so good lately where I live, and that the sun boosts my mood right from the moment when I wake up... what a simple, wonderful thing the sun is... no wonder our ancestors revered it as God☀️
I appreciate that I could help someone on this forum, and I appricate the Love that I could express and receive in doing so❤️
I appreciate that I can visit my parents in my home town and that we can spend time together❤️
I appreciate that I can express my appreciation for all of the above and that @Mandy made this post and that @Phil so selflessly provided us with this forum🙏🏼❤️
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13 minutes ago, ivankiss said:
Sat down on a bench by the sea to breathe and absorb some sunlight. My mind was kinda stuck in the past, was feeling a bit down and anxious.
Then, a beautiful dark gray, almost black pigeon landed right next to me. It looked quite different and unique in comparison to other pigeons nearby. I soon noticed it was missing two fingers, and that hit real deep.
Here I am, thinking about something that's not even here, feeling weak and lost... and there's this pigeon, actually missing a part of his body, flying around carefree, fully immersed in the moment.
It was not afraid of me, not at all. It stood barely a few inches away. We locked eyes a few times. It was truly divine. It totally seemed like this pigeon came specifically to me, to deliver a message. And the message was received.
It brought a few tears to my eyes. The pigeon flew away and I walked back home with a smile on my face, breathing freely.
Animals are so cool.
Beautiful... Maybe that was the holy spirit?😄
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@Ges Welcome to the forum🙏🏻
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@God Hi👋🏼 did you really get banned for suggesting a dark theme?😂
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@Faith Congrats to your new job!
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I appreciate that you started this thread, it's a good idea🙂 and I appreciate this forum 🙏🏻
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@ivankiss @Winter @lxlichael Welcome! nice to have you around❤
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2 minutes ago, Orb said:
red color administrator consciousness master
lmao what a description😂😂
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You can only be you, ever.
Imagine you could be two people at the same time. Still you.
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YES! You're "I"all the time. You're always "I". It doesn't matter who you are. Don't you see that this "I" is the same? There are no two "I". There are no others, dude.
Now, once you realize that this "I" isn't inside your body, but that your body is inside you, and that the same applies to literally everything and everyone, then there's no more Solipsism.
The question of "do they have their own internal world" becomes meaningless because "I" is not something inside the body, not something inside "you" (ego).
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Notice that all of your suffering comes from "what if?"
"What if?" is not the same as "is".
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1 minute ago, Forza21 said:
Pure consciousness? 😁No!!! Way too complicated!!
Who are you??
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PS: it's ridiculously simple.
What's the simplest answer you could possibly give me to the question "who are you?"
Who are you?
My thoughts of Leo and actualize.org. What do you think?
in The Path
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@Robed Mystic ❤️🙏🏼