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This all very well and good, very poetic. But no one wrote this. No one is reading this. No one buys this or rejects this. No one knows what they are talking about, and No one says I know what you are talking about. Reality is Nothing, at most itās completely Nihilistic by itās very nature. Nothing it is and cannot be proven by anyone because there is no one to prove nothing. Nothing exists, literally absolutely nothing. Everything is simply the imaginings of imagination. Everything is dead, because everything is nothing.
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Thanks James. Thatās brilliant advice. Truly appreciated. š Iāve taken the decision to end our relationship. I donāt even want to be platonic friends with him because I know that will hurt not being able to be intimate with him. The only solution for me is to be alone and cut off all intimate attachments and ties with him. I canāt deal with all the hurting. Iāve already explained all this to him that I canāt be with him anymore, and left it with I LOVE YOU Is that bloody selfish of me or what?
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Serious question because I donāt think we can. Itās never going to be the same. As the wise sage said : No one can survive their own awakening. In other words: No one in their right mind would want this. And yet it can be both uphoric and terrifying at the same time. The old wise saying: Before and After enlightenment ..chop wood and carry water doesnāt seem to apply to me anywayā¦ life is attachment and suffering no matter what you do. For example: If attachment is suffering then are we to stop wanting children, we cannot say we are not attached to them. Also, having children, isnāt that just inviting more suffering into the world? Is there any escape from attachment and suffering? I donāt think there is, to be honest.
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The eight fold path
Jane replied to JG1001's topic in Nonduality, Consciousness, Awakening, Enlightenment, Self-Recognition
Then again, Love means never having to say your sorry. According to UG Krishnamurtiā¦Love is a filthy word, it implies two. I am beginning to wonder if unconditional reciprocal love between two partners is even possible on earth. Itās as though once the honeymoon period is over, when we come back down to earth, back to realityā¦thatās when love starts to hurt like hell. Hell is other people as they say. What if the truth for Enlightened people is more shocking than they ever realised. The realisation that you are all alone in the world and that there is simple no one else who can give love to you, nor is there anyone else you can give love to. Thats the stark realisation Iāve reached anyway. And Iām perfectly at peace with that. In fact itās the peace that passes all understanding as the great wise sages have said. ā peace out! -
I understand; but why do intimate relationships with others ā¦hurt so muchā¦for me they do anyway. Itās like as soon as I tell my partner of 18 months some random spontaneous things ..like I want to do something that doesnāt include him, namely, I want to be alone for awhileā¦.he responds by saying to me ( ādonāt feel bad about it, I was expecting it, I hope everything works out for youā ) And then when I try to explain to him about why I donāt want to visit him anymore at the moment but would dearly love to keep open a line of communication between us ā¦but then after a day or two, I then change my mind and send a text to him ā¦that asks, do you still want me to visit you? )ā¦ā¦his reply asks, ā whatās changedā ? and when I try to explain to him by answering his questionā¦ā¦it hurts me, why, because he suddenly says to me, āletās just leave it there for now.ā Itās like he shuts off as if he is trying to protect himself. In the moment I didnāt want to leave it there, I wanted to be totally transparent and talk about my real and true feelings ā¦.not just leave it there, like he wanted to do. Should I have just said ok letās leave it there, when all I wanted to do was talk? Its like he is not feeling secure with me because I keep changing my mind about whether or not I want to be alone, or be in a relationship with him, itās as though he canāt handle me changing my mind sometimes about what I want. Itās as though he expects me to be more solid and certain about us as a couple, as though he doesnāt want to be put in a situation where heās not sure about what Iām going to want to do next. IDK, I just feel confused in relationship with him, I am crazy about him, and the sexual chemistry between us is electrifyingā¦but all I want to be, is free to be myself. But relationships tend to make me feel shackled even though I adore him ā¦I canāt seem to feel relaxed with him. I recently said I wanted to shave all my hair off and be bald like a Buddha, and he responded withā¦.ā I wonāt like thatā ā¦.so again I just donāt feel free to be myself. I just donāt know how to be in relationships because Iām always feeling like I can never truly be myself with people. Itās like I have to play a kind of role that is expected of me before theyāll be accepting of me. And sometimes I just donāt think itās worth the effort or bother, and thatās why I get the urges to be alone. I would appreciate anyone reading this ā¦to offer some adviceā¦. Thanks. But itās ok if you donāt want to say anything . Iāll understand.
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Do you want attachment love? Would that be love wanting itself, love loving itself? Wouldnāt it be when you are making love to someone else, wouldnāt that just be love making love to itself? Attaching to itself? of course this can only be known within the illusory dream of separation where the experience of separation longs to come together again? To become one again?
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Nothing is everything, already complete and whole, not needing or wanting or expecting anything, itās already everything, literally everything. Theres nothing everything can attach to, to make it anymore whole. There is nothing to let go of, you are already the absolute, already unconditional freedom and love. You cannot know the beloved because you are the beloved. Thereās only the beloved.
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You donāt have to let go or surrender anything. Just meet yourself where you are. If tears,despair,depression or heartbreak comes to visitā¦LET THEM If joy, estacy, happiness, laughter comes to visitā¦LET THEM Its all you. Let life break you, or make you, and just feel how that feels. Itās not like you can free yourself of yourselfā¦ you canāt do that.