Iesu
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2 minutes ago, Robed Mystic said:
Your right I'm just a dude. I don't hold the Truth the Truth holds me.
Just some dudes 👊 all though Leo does make it sound like he holds the truth sometimes lol
What really broke my heart though is he said we don't care how you feel about the truth in the solipsism video.
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@Blessed2 I totally feel that. Forgive me for the things I've said about him. But there seems to be some compassion missing.
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Leo once said doesn't know how to change the oil in his car. Kind of odd for some claiming omniscience lol
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1 hour ago, Joseph Maynor said:
How did you make that leap in logic?When he leaped pasted all the jhanas of course
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10 hours ago, God said:
And be sure to watch Leo's video on devilry. Many people, especially those religious, tend to have childish/naiive ideas about the topic.
You become a devil when you demonize / consider evil anything that's a threat to your ego. If you were 100% selfless, evil could not even exist, from your perspective. It's only when you are fearful and have something to defend that you can see anything as "evil". And through this act of demonization, you become the devil yourself.
Also who's ego lol you literally said become the devil as if their is some separate entity called the "devil".
Dog we are here to support you but please for my sake and others leave the devil talk at the door
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3 hours ago, God said:
And be sure to watch Leo's video on devilry. Many people, especially those religious, tend to have childish/naiive ideas about the topic.
You become a devil when you demonize / consider evil anything that's a threat to your ego. If you were 100% selfless, evil could not even exist, from your perspective. It's only when you are fearful and have something to defend that you can see anything as "evil". And through this act of demonization, you become the devil yourself.
If there is no self how can one be afraid?
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12 minutes ago, Phil said:
That is great to hear!
For sure. Perfectly understandable and also within the guidelines.
The relevance, is suffering, vs liberation of suffering. Isn’t it so?
There’s some suffering in the experience of the discord of hypocrisy, I agree. I’ve stubbed that toe too. There was a sting, yes, but there was & is, no suffering.
🙂 I love you too, and I appreciate the kind words, I don’t think you’re being disrespectful to me at all, I’m nothing. I suggest the upmost respect for your own well being & alignment. The goodness ain’t comin from me sneaky pants.
Maybe Leo’s changed, maybe he hasn’t, maybe he will, maybe he won’t, maybe he should or needs to, maybe he shouldn’t and doesn’t need to.
Vs.
Cessation. Truth. The end of suffering.
cessation 🤤 Phil the Hustler
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@Phil And I am not trying to point fingers at you Phil or be disrespectful. God Phil I love you to fucking death you'll always be 1 to me. I have seen 100s! if not thousands of people be effected negatively from his behavior and it's sad because it's all avoidable. Leo hasn't changed and probably won't ever change. He's not waking up having a revelation that we did is wrong or sleezy. He encourages his negative behavior thinking it's ok.
I agree with you Phil I totally need to drop this but I personally feel hurt as fuck from that guy.
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1 minute ago, Phil said:
I do not disagree. Guilty af. Worst offender of all here. Absolute unredeemable piece of shit over here.
How’s that actually relevant?
True but I am doing the best I've ever been and keep getting better. But people have hurt they want to express. I can't count how many times leo has gas lighten me or other people. Watching and reading Leos stuff made me feel like I was going insane and he literally reinforces it and then CONTRADICTS it. He literally has said it feels like you're going insane then smacks people for being "egoic".
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10 minutes ago, Phil said:
I implore you and anyone else with the same sentiment to either let it go, for good… or… go actually spend some time with him… and then if you still want, think about him, judge him, etc, etc. But at least directly experience so to speak, what y’all are even talking about.
I agree that I should let it go. But his behavior has caused consequences for MANY. Even you yourself have made comments.
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6 minutes ago, Phil said:
Thank you sir.
I'm sorry Phil he's just a very interesting person
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2 minutes ago, Phil said:
This is in stark contrast with the guidelines. Is there any respect for the guidelines? Is that other than self respect?
I removed the comment
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18 minutes ago, Ges said:
@Phil I'll stop making comments regarding either forums. It's immature of me now that I think about it.
All is forgiven, Leo has hurt quite a few people and unfortunately a few people have passed from that type of content. That forum seems more focused on one night stands then a life long marriage
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9 hours ago, God said:
Try to stick to a point, man.
So you dislike Leo because he said he'll tell you how to become God, you failed, and now you're angry as you realize that anyone can claim to be God or can claim to be able teach you to become God?
"become" god lmfao. Bro this is clearly trolling and you don't know what you're talking about. His point is that "you" don't have one.
Might I ask who exactly "becomes" god?
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10 hours ago, Kevin said:
Outrageous experiments In consciousness is click bait
someone died taking 5 meo in the tub. Maybe jerking off on 5 meo shouldn't be taught as a spiritual practice.
@God ngl naming yourself god on a forum of people who have realized they're god is a little narcissistic
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2 minutes ago, Aware Wolf said:
well, I'll try an experiment. Can I say the opposite and it still be true?
God, Brahman, Pure Consciousness, Buddha Nature -- EXPERIENCES EVERYTHING. It's pure and unpure. Holy and unholy. Formless and Form. The Formless is Form as the Heart Sutra says. Infinite and Finite. Both in time and outside of it.
Does a dog have Buddha nature?
The response in a koan was an emphatic MU! (NO) But how can this be as in a sutta we're told all being have Buddha nature? This Mu Koan is considered a "breakthrough" koan. In that solving it often shows the student has achieved kensho.
(NO!). In another koan, the answer was a YES.
There's this verse too:
Has a dog Buddha-nature?
This is the most serious question of all.
If you say yes or no,
You lose your own Buddha-nature.
lol it's just coinincidence your profile pic is Ōkami Amaterasu. Right? lol
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1 minute ago, God said:
lol. Well, basically, we all live in separate dimensions of existence. We can interact, but our realities can never merge into one. In my dimension, I am God. In yours, you are God.
Then what is co creation?
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Just now, God said:
Well it's true. I am God, the one and only. And if anyone disagrees and gets angry, that's just an opportunity for them to realize the truth and grow.
Jesus. Do you believe all others awakenings are so they can prime your awakening?
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2 minutes ago, Kevin said:
Lmao god has come to this forum to teach the unenlightened a beginners class on solipsism.
You know what the fuck ever happened to not conceptualizing truth, compassion, and oh geez oneness. 🤨 @God
Also what self realized person makes their username god lol. That's literally the most newb thing someone could do
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7 minutes ago, God said:
I am as calm as a.. [insert calm thing here]😌
And * sigh *
Why must you "believe" or "disbelieve" something? We're not in church school anymore.
Is it theoretically possible for you to ever experience anything outside your brain, during your life? Tell me.
Your body has senses which send signals to the brain. They all get interpreted as "the world" in your brain, yes? So tell me. Tell me about the world outside your mind that you've experienced, since solipsism is just a dumb weird belief.
Last time I checked you're still everything, nothing, everywhere and nowhere. And also none of the above hehe
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2 hours ago, Phil said:
What’s it?
Who’s terrified?
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I remember once when I was a kid, I stole a G.I. Joe from a store. 😬 Other than a case of beer, that was the only thing I ever stole. I didn’t feel great about it, but I didn’t feel bad about it either. But I was not the clever thief I thought I was. I totally got busted. General manager was watching the whole time on the security camera. Got busted & he called my folks. Dad came. 😬😬 And… in the office, with dad & the GM, and my thievery literally recorded on tape - I lied and said I didn’t steal it. That is still to this day the worst most terrifying feeling ever. 😬😬😬 Dad & I laugh about this now if & when it comes up. But when I told my kids this story… I’ll admit… I put just an itsy bitsy fear-of-God vibe in it. It made my story bigger and cooler. Or rather, at the time that’s what I thought.
His words not mime.
Lol dad I swear it was my second clone that stole that gi Joe.
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On 4/10/2022 at 9:12 PM, Lester Retsel said:
I just went back in this thread and saw this, I'm actually really touched by it, and I'm flattered to have been brought into this discussion at all. I strive to be as clear as possible in what I say publicly, I take full responsibility for all my words, if I ever realize an error I will cop to it immediately, I'm very new to doing this, and I hope to keep growing. So, thank you, I'm humbled truly to have reached anyone, I intend to remain humble and curious along with y'all. Cheers.
What confuses me the most about Leo is he CONTRADICTS himself so fucking much. One has to be open minded to the nature of paradox but in my opinion Leo takes it to another level. I had extremely traumatic trips once I started watching his videos. Like a horror trip where there was no backside to anything. Another where Leo says all other beings are fantasy while I was on acid.
Many things he said inc; There is so much love it's traumatic, other is a projection of your own mind, it feels like you're going insane, 5 meo was pure terror, when you realize there is no other it will be terrifying, it's just you, only you. Then I had a tipping point my friend died and Soonhei as well I had enough. I went on the forum expressing my negative emotion explaining I was suicidal. His response?
"Truth makes you feel good not shitty, this is ego bullshit"
And when I first joined the forum I had insight that self=other. But was confused when Leo said other was a projection of your own mind and that it feels like you're going insane. I expressed to someone either in pm or a thread. I soon received a PM from Leo saying cut the shit.
I would see go on to cuss people out saying it's not solipsism and that I was him and he is me. But later goes on to contradict himself again example solipsism video.
The hypocrisy,
I have also seen him call people stupid, idiots, devils, and make derogatory comments towards people or things.
Have also witnessed the preaching on his forum and members who are just young and reckless.
Him frowning upon other schools of thought, teachings, and teachers, name calling, telling people they are wrong in extremely blunt manner.
Gaslighting, narcissism,
He also said that he does not personally love you.
Now seeing what Lester has pointed out, the subforum for sexuality, the videos, holy shit this man has robbed me of so much joy. I had no idea if other people existed for 2 years. The nihilism. I am doing exponentially better now thanks to @Phil @Lester Retsel @Orb The amount of respect and thanks I give is immeasurable
But what pisses me off the fucking most is in the solipsism video he says. "We don't care how you feel about the truth"
Mods I will edit my comment if need be but I genuinely see Leo as a piece of shit.
"So right now you are imagining that solipsism cannot be true and I'm full of shit. And so that is what becomes true for you" @Leo Gura
Coincidentally Slipknot has 9 members
My thoughts of Leo and actualize.org. What do you think?
in The Path
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@Robed Mystic I love you and phil very much but you do you at least see some people are hurt from the things he says?