Eothasian Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Any opinion on this? Quote Mention Animals are good people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LfcCharlie4 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Personally agree. I think Tony Parsons, Jim Newman and the likes just chat absolute waffle & become stuck in this No-Self mantra. I think overall it'll do more harm than good. Completely bypasses any psychological issues one might have, personality, where someone is on their path, life in general, relationships, emotions & just about everything else haha Best to stick to true masters and modern masters like Ramana, Rupert Spira, Francis Lucille, Barry Long etc Also, remember each 'Guru' has their own culture, personality & everything else interwoven into their awakening. So someone like Ramana may thrive sitting on a hill in a diaper, whereas, someone like Rupert who is western, has a family & lives an English life. Both awakened, expressing through their personality. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Neo advaita does not exist. It's really not at all a thing that can be dismissed, demonized, suspected, etc. Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eothasian Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 @LfcCharlie4 Intelligently said, thank you for the input. @Mandy What does mean? Quote Mention Animals are good people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 @Eothasian There is no such denomination within any practiced religion, nor is there any group or division of any spiritual community or teachings such as neo-advaita. This division is itself a conceptualization that teachings described as neo advaita point out to be false, illusory, not actually happening, etc. Thus the irony and hilarity that people may take negation seriously, and therefore take neo advaita seriously and forget to negate it itself. There is nothing to be negated. It is possible for someone to get stuck on conceptually negating stuff and not yet realize that nothing real can be negated, and then it seems like life or creativity is at odds with a "truth". Thus, separation, duality, thought attachment, nihilism, etc. It is possible for people to believe that neo advaita is a real denomination that teaches the truth while "others" teach falsehoods (LOA serves an "ego" etc). To do this is to make the same error that religion and denominations within religions have made for hundreds of years. Me right, you wrong. 😂 "Nothing real can be threatened, nothing unreal exists. Herein lies the peace of god." -Course in Miracles That is exactly what neo advaita is attempting to convey, but again there is not even a real category such as neo advaita that you can categorize teachers or teachings into. You cannot have a teaching "advaita" meaning "not two or second" and call one part of it "new", and assume the other is "old". See the hilarity and irony? Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 I've actually spoken with Anna Brown and she told me that meditation/spiritual practices are fine it's just that they won't enlighten you, because enlightenment is appearing as meditation/spiritual practices. Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eothasian Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 @Mandy Aaah, I see. very nice. @Orb I don't know what that means Quote Mention Animals are good people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 It’s not really ‘someone on Neo Advaita’. Advaita means nondual, not-two. “It” is literally you telling yourself you are infinite unconditional love, the Truth… and the ego, the belief in separate selves, popping up…. refuting the Truth of yourself… by calling yourself… a “Neo Advaita teacher”. It’s supposed to be funny. Well, supposed to be is going to far. It can be allowed to be funny. You can allow yourself to rejoice in the Truth of yourself and the absurdity of this whole situation. It feels good when you do, because you are not the person, you are that good feeling, which is infinite & eternal. 🤍 The Good News is that you are the eternal Good News. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finitude Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 On 9/13/2022 at 6:12 AM, Mandy said: Neo advaita does not exist. It's really not at all a thing that can be dismissed, demonized, suspected, etc. This negation of the negation is actually really funny. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finitude Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 On 9/13/2022 at 6:00 AM, LfcCharlie4 said: Jim Newman This character finds great joy in confounding other characters. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eothasian Posted October 8, 2022 Author Share Posted October 8, 2022 (edited) On 9/30/2022 at 11:50 AM, Phil said: It’s not really ‘someone on Neo Advaita’. Advaita means nondual, not-two. “It” is literally you telling yourself you are infinite unconditional love, the Truth… and the ego, the belief in separate selves, popping up…. refuting the Truth of yourself… by calling yourself… a “Neo Advaita teacher”. It’s supposed to be funny. Well, supposed to be is going to far. It can be allowed to be funny. You can allow yourself to rejoice in the Truth of yourself and the absurdity of this whole situation. It feels good when you do, because you are not the person, you are that good feeling, which is infinite & eternal. 🤍 The Good News is that you are the eternal Good News. I think what he means is that the conceptual pointers towards it don't do effectively for him what is intended by the teachers. it would be better to guide through the experience he has eventually into it Edited October 8, 2022 by Eothasian Quote Mention Animals are good people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, Eothasian said: I think what he means is that the conceptual pointers towards it don't do effectively for him what is intended by the teachers. There aren’t any “Neo Advaita teachers”. There isn’t a “him”. There are no teachers which have intentions for him. When the purporting as“spiritual teacher”, which doesn’t exist and is really “spiritual ego”, is confronted with the recognition of ‘their own’ thought attachment, emotional suppression and therein mis-identification… the projection occurs… that there are “Neo Advaitans” or “Neo Advaita teachers”. A great example would be telling a “spiritual teacher” there isn’t a you which avoids the truth, and being asked to leave because you are a “Neo Advaita. Teacher”. But I=me. 10 minutes ago, Eothasian said: it would be better to guide through the experience he has eventually into it Into what? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eothasian Posted October 8, 2022 Author Share Posted October 8, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Phil said: There aren’t any “Neo Advaita teachers”. There isn’t a “him”. There are no teachers which have intentions for him. well as far as I remember this is exactly what he means which wasn't helpful to show that there's only I, in language. but yes, the meaming helpful can be framed and so on. 8 minutes ago, Phil said: When the purporting as“spiritual teacher”, which doesn’t exist and is really “spiritual ego”, is confronted with the recognition of ‘their own’ thought attachment, emotional suppression and therein mis-identification… wel ll if you want to show him that, don't point to it directly in language is what he is communicating. 8 minutes ago, Phil said: Into what? source? enlightenment? I? Edited October 8, 2022 by Eothasian Quote Mention Animals are good people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eothasian Posted October 8, 2022 Author Share Posted October 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Eothasian said: wel ll if you want to show him that, don't point to it directly in language is what he is communicating. or sorry. 'don t rely heavily or repeatedly on point towards it through language' is what was conveyed I believe Quote Mention Animals are good people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 @Eothasian Nothing at all wrong with it, but the misunderstanding is in the title. There aren’t Neo Advaita teachers or preachers. Just the message. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eothasian Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 10 hours ago, Phil said: @Eothasian Nothing at all wrong with it, but the misunderstanding is in the title. There aren’t Neo Advaita teachers or preachers. Just the message. Well there's 2 answers here. Ai, for real and I don't know, phil. I don't know. Quote Mention Animals are good people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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