nurthur11 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 I took a pain killer earlier and it made me feel good. I wanted to find out why so i googled to find out. I found a study done in Stanford on how when pain leaves happiness is felt(emotionally). Also, i read how pain killers are used for emotional relieves and about their negative effects. The moment i read the negative effects i felt discomfort on my body. I decided to directly see the discomfort and it went away - i saw it as placebo effect. The discomfort came because i started believing it will have negative effect on me. Do you think direct experience can dispel placebo effects? (I am also concerned here that direct experience blocks the placebo effects) I think these effects come because ones believes in them. (If this was a place bo effect or not i am not 100 sure) It can surety do if you would directly see the symptoms of that belief but one would have to fully understand why one beliefs that thing and if the experience correlate to what it is realistically expected to happen. This is were it becomes tricky because many people experience what they read in the internet. People say things like my adhd brain started doing this thing blablabla and start building/seeing an adhd brain in their experience. While in fact they would not be able to know what adhd brain does from third perspective. There is a paper just recently that shows that the subjective experience of contentless states is different in different people(toby woods, jennifer windt). So there could also be cases when one would “placebo” a contentless state(since there are subjective experience about it then it is experienced). When pain leaves love comes when we experience the contentless state what comes? If it does dispel it then what is the mind that creates the placebo effect? Can that mind be located in experience? I guess that is the mind that is experienced, but direct experience can be experienced also. So would it be already what we have right now? If we would locate the mind that creates the place bo effect then we can hack belief’s. Would it be possible to consciously convince or make believers out of ourself about a certain idea or would it have to come spontaneously ? For example: my brother is hypochondriac - if he twist his ankle he will concern much more than normally people would do. It would be inefficient for him to now directly look at the hypochondriac “symptoms” such as oppsesive thoughts, stress or feeling angry. He would have to go directly to the triggers of that experience or dissect the belief somehow. There are many people that twist their ankle or catch a cold and don’t really worry that much. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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