Romantic Relationships are Unnatural

[Jane]

Maybe I’m more focused on when a mother unconditionally loves her baby sucking on her breast.

 

but then adults can’t give each other that unconditional love once they become familiar with separation 🤔

[Mandy]

The separation never becomes, and the thoughts that are believed and make it seem to be so are sneaky and immediate. 

[Jane]

55 minutes ago, Mandy said:

The separation never becomes, and the thoughts that are believed and make it seem to be so are sneaky and immediate. 

So there’s nothing happening just the belief there’s something happening…belief in the thought. Is believed to be real?

Edited Friday at 03:03 PM by Jane

[Jane]

Thanks M & P 

 

I get it now. I understand the concept of what unconditional  love is and what is actually means.

 

Thanks for your support in helping me to see this clearly.

 

❤️

Edited Friday at 03:14 PM by Jane

[Kevin]

16 hours ago, Phil said:

Maybe you think mom loves you less than others, like spouse or siblings maybe? And that comes up with the ladies? Maybe a belief you’re unlovable? That would be a challenging and disorienting belief for sure.

 

Yes she 100% loved my little sister more than me. My little sister got so much preferential treatment. I would actually try and sit my mom down and explain to her that certain things are not ok and she needs to put a stop to it. She would dismiss me and not listen.

 

16 hours ago, Phil said:

That would be perfectly understandable. You’re allowing what has never been felt to be felt. The zest will come back all on its own.  

 

Did you go through a period like that?

I guess I ask because I’m experiencing insecurity around being lazy. But also I think maybe this is a normal part of the path.

16 hours ago, Phil said:

Ohhhh the analogy makes sense

Edited Friday at 05:02 PM by Kevin

[Phil]

37 minutes ago, Kevin said:

Yes she 100% loved my little sister more than me. My little sister got so much preferential treatment. I would actually try and sit my mom down and explain to her that certain things are not ok and she needs to put a stop to it. She would dismiss me and not listen.

Jealousy?

 

38 minutes ago, Kevin said:

Did you go through a period like that?

I guess I ask because I’m experiencing insecurity around being lazy. But also I think maybe this is a normal part of the path.

Well, thought makes it seem so but the real wonder is in being present. 

 

39 minutes ago, Kevin said:

Ohhhh the analogy makes sense

I wonder if the little bear is the past with mum & sister and the big bear is the s.o. / relationship wanted…?

[Kevin]

2 minutes ago, Phil said:

Jealousy?

 

not so much jealousy. My sister was babied. I just would have preferred to have been actually listened to.

2 minutes ago, Phil said:

Well, thought makes it seem so but the real wonder is in being present. 

 

I wonder if the little bear is the past with mum & sister and the big bear is the s.o. / relationship wanted…?

100%. Idk how to move forward though. This solitude and meditating more only seems to highlight the pain and resentment. Kind of like when I’m living normally and working out a lot I can mostly ignore this stuff. Now it’s like it’s screaming at me. The volume is turned way up right now.

[Phil]

29 minutes ago, Kevin said:

not so much jealousy. My sister was babied. I just would have preferred to have been actually listened to.

Might have left you believing you’re unworthy or undeserving…?

 

30 minutes ago, Kevin said:

100%. Idk how to move forward though. This solitude and meditating more only seems to highlight the pain and resentment. Kind of like when I’m living normally and working out a lot I can mostly ignore this stuff. Now it’s like it’s screaming at me. The volume is turned way up right now.

I don’t know how to move forward either. 

[Kevin]

6 minutes ago, Phil said:

Might have left you believing you’re unworthy or undeserving…?

 

Yes. And now I’m feeling a lot of anger

6 minutes ago, Phil said:

I don’t know how to move forward either. 

 

[Phil]

6 minutes ago, Kevin said:

Yes. And now I’m feeling a lot of anger

Better than hatred or rage, yet not quite as resonating as discouragement…?

[Kevin]

2 minutes ago, Phil said:

Better than hatred or rage, yet not quite as resonating as discouragement…?

Hmm well I’d say hatred and rage and anger. And I feel some unwillingness to move to discouragement.

[Phil]

@Kevin

It can be challenging to ‘bring it back to yourself’.