Joseph Maynor Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 1 minute ago, Mandy said: @Joseph Maynor It's not, it's immediate, the focus on the separate self. The words aren't owned and aren't coming from anyone. That's what channeling is. I follow that. So here's my question: Wouldn't this apply to Joseph Maynor's words too though as they are experienced? Why presume Joseph Maynor is a separate self? Quote Mention 💬 🗯️🤍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Orb said: Lol true. I just wanted to see how you'd react. 😌 ❤️ You thought you had Me there for a second lol. Edited June 2 by Joseph Maynor Quote Mention 💬 🗯️🤍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 @Joseph Maynor There are no Joseph Maynor's words, that's the ownership. The presumption is immediate, you can't presume that we presume, without presuming yourself. Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 Just now, Mandy said: @Joseph Maynor There are no Joseph Maynor's words, that's the ownership. The presumption is immediate, you can't presume that we presume, without presuming yourself. I agree with that. That's why I'm confused about why Phil is saying I'm doing egocentric spirituality. There's no Joseph Maynor. Quote Mention 💬 🗯️🤍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 6 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said: ❤️ You thought you had Me there for a second lol. Who thought you had a me there for a second? Nah I'm just playing around lol Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 @Joseph Maynor That's still about Phil, and Phil's words. Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mandy said: @Joseph Maynor That's still about Phil, and Phil's words. That's it! I just wanted to make sure. The Self != Joseph Maynor. Edited June 2 by Joseph Maynor Quote Mention 💬 🗯️🤍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 @Joseph Maynor As in it's still getting caught in that the words are really coming from a person. And if they are believed to be coming from a person, then the way I feel is believed to be because of them, not because of the assumptions I'm thinking. Journaling in a freely expressive (without concern about the end product of judgments of it) way really helps to see the assumptions behind thoughts. Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 12 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said: The Self != Joseph Maynor. No, that's ego centric. The Self ! = Cookie Monster The Self ! = Joseph Maynor, is still just as funny if there's no discord or assumptions happening about lost importance or deserved importance. Belonging is not the result of proving yourself, it is the case unconditionally. Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Mandy said: No, that's ego centric. The Self ! = Cookie Monster The Self ! = Joseph Maynor, is still just as funny. Got it. It's not to be understood. Understanding is absurd. That's why it's funny. Then I'm useful for one thing, generation of loads of laughter. 🤣 Edited June 2 by Joseph Maynor Quote Mention 💬 🗯️🤍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joseph Maynor Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 @Mandy I get it. The goal is to be light and funny on here. Quote Mention 💬 🗯️🤍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 @Joseph Maynor No, it's not! Then being light and funny would be important. And the one who was being light and funny could rate their success or failure on how light and funny they were. Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 Just now, Mandy said: @Joseph Maynor No, it's not! Good. Because that's not my strength. Quote Mention 💬 🗯️🤍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 @Joseph Maynor There's nothing you can do to belong because you do already. There's nothing that needs be proven. You're already loved and appreciated, and you don't need anyone in particular or any particular reactions for that to be the case. Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 Just now, Mandy said: @Joseph Maynor There's nothing you can do to belong because you do already. There's nothing that needs be proven. You're already loved and appreciated, and you don't need anyone in particular or any particular reactions for that to be the case. This is Love. ❤️ Quote Mention 💬 🗯️🤍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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