WhiteOwl Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 (edited) At times when i've been able to focus on breathing deeply from the stomach for a long time to really gain momentum, magic ensued all around me and i felt so incredible. That somehow is not always "easy", like some emotions and thoughts continue to exist and cause discord even through continues deep breathing focus. That i am the dooer, "pushing" my stomach in and out while being aware of it seems to be the case. I can do it half out or full out. Is that not a dooing? I feel frustration and impatience. I feel pessimism. Edited April 25 by WhiteOwl Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 27 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said: At times when i've been able to focus on breathing deeply from the stomach for a long time to really gain momentum, magic ensued all around me and i felt so incredible. That somehow is not always "easy", like some emotions and thoughts continue to exist and cause discord even through continues deep breathing focus. That i am the dooer, "pushing" my stomach in and out while being aware of it seems to be the case. I can do it half out or full out. Is that not a dooing? I feel frustration and impatience. I feel pessimism. You may naturally be learning what Equnimity is now. Sometimes it's super sunny and other times it rains, yet I don't hear the earth upset about it, or preferring one over the other. What if there was literally no difference to you whether you were experiencing "magic" or ordinariness. Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 45 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said: That i am the dooer, "pushing" my stomach in and out while being aware of it seems to be the case. I can do it half out or full out. Is that not a dooing? The "doer" is an after thought, it's implied that there's someone doing the breathing. But this observation will not take away the felt sensation that you label as "doing". So I wouldn't worry about whether you're doing anything or not. It would be like lifting 100 pounds of weight and being like oh no one's doing this 😂. Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 The frustration, impatience & pessimism are how the thoughts about a separate self feel. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James123 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 16 minutes ago, Phil said: The frustration, impatience & pessimism are how the thoughts about a separate self feel. Definitely. 1 hour ago, WhiteOwl said: At times when i've been able to focus on breathing deeply from the stomach for a long time to really gain momentum, magic ensued all around me and i felt so incredible. That somehow is not always "easy", like some emotions and thoughts continue to exist and cause discord even through continues deep breathing focus. That i am the dooer, "pushing" my stomach in and out while being aware of it seems to be the case. I can do it half out or full out. Is that not a dooing? I feel frustration and impatience. I feel pessimism. These are so called self that comes from. Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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