Orbran Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 @Phil As I said, no longer interested in attempts to explain. Feeling better already. Fin. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 @Orbran Much love. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Paradox is what the mind labels infinity as. Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 The apparent seeker sees nothing in what is sought, because the sought can know nothing of its reality. So there is never any paradox in reality. “SEEKER” is just another empty principle appearing real in this conception. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 (edited) On 4/23/2024 at 7:48 PM, Joseph Maynor said: Your response gets tricky from an advaita vedanta perspective because the ego/mind is that which makes the distinction between subjective and objective. If there is no ego and no people, then the subjective-objective duality is false. The Self doesn't become anything; to become implies change and the Self is changeless. Vivartavada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivartavada Yes when I meant objectivity I meant something prior to language which is dualistic in nature of course. The Absolute, if you will. It is Absolute. Of course I'm only pointing to it with words - the words aren't IT. Now, when back in an egoic state of mind, telling someone else who has experienced God of your experience may have a different experience or description of what it was like then you did. But "your" Experience is Absolutely Unique...of course it is! Of course it is, because you're God! Edited May 3 by Robed Mystic Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 (edited) 1 hour ago, Robed Mystic said: Yes when I meant objectivity I meant something prior to language which is dualistic in nature of course. The Absolute, if you will. It is Absolute. Of course I'm only pointing to it with words - the words aren't IT. Now, when back in an egoic state of mind, telling someone else who has experienced God of your experience may have a different experience or description of what it was like then you did. But "your" Experience is Absolutely Unique...of course it is! Of course it is, because you're God! Only you as the Self are God. Good to hear from you btw. Edited May 4 by Joseph Maynor Quote Mention 💬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 hour ago, Joseph Maynor said: Only you as the Self are God. Good to hear from you btw. And you as well. Leo's site is down and basically at this point I'm wondering if he is still alive. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 4 hours ago, Robed Mystic said: And you as well. Leo's site is down and basically at this point I'm wondering if he is still alive. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Leo_Gura Leo is God 🤣 God is Dead - Nietzsche Nietzsche is Dead - God Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 14 hours ago, Jane said: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Leo_Gura Leo is God 🤣 God is Dead - Nietzsche Nietzsche is Dead - God I'm not joking. The site has been down like two days now. That's unheard of. And no videos for almost a year. Something happened. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 @Robed Mystic That’s pretty unusual. Have you emailed him or anything just to make sure he’s alright? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 26 minutes ago, Phil said: @Robed Mystic That’s pretty unusual. Have you emailed him or anything just to make sure he’s alright? Yes no response yet... Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 @Robed Mystic Probably adding to the website. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 33 minutes ago, Phil said: @Robed Mystic Probably adding to the website. I don't think so. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 8 hours ago, Robed Mystic said: I'm not joking. The site has been down like two days now. That's unheard of. And no videos for almost a year. Something happened. I’ve never been a member of Leo’s forum, although I’ve been a regular lurker reading there. I have viewed a significant amount of his YouTube videos though. Maybe the forum is down for maintenance… And maybe the absence of videos is because he’s simply run out of things to talk about. But yeah, who knows what’s happening. I hope he’s ok. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 (edited) After doing spirituality for a long time and having it benefit me a lot, the paradox is on some level I'm still the same dude I always was. I'm the same dude but with a bunch more nonsense to talk about lol. Just kidding. Naw, it did benefit me on some level. But I think we exaggerate the change too. It's ok to be the same ole you you've always been too. Not everyone is going to agree with me here, and that's ok. There's something to be said for self-acceptance in this work. People want to transform into some idea they have in their mind and it just turns into a kind of self-denial and self-delusion. Not entirely, but in part. It happened/happens to me and I assume everyone else on the path too. I suppose I could try to look like Mooji or Sadhguru if I wanted to, but there's no need. I'm cool being me without any shame. But at the same time I'm open to change too of course. It took me a long time to kind of figure this all out on my path because when you're young on the path you tend to think you need to completely transform into something else -- you listen to everyone else tell you what's what. I can be influenced but I'm an original too. Edited May 5 by Joseph Maynor Quote Mention 💬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Here are 2 good examples of a paradox. (there never was paradox) (the lies that tell the truth) Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James123 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 20 minutes ago, Jane said: Here are 2 good examples of a paradox. (there never was paradox) (the lies that tell the truth) There never was paradox explains what the truth is. Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 53 minutes ago, James123 said: There never was paradox explains what the truth is. Beautiful! 💔 That which appears 'broken' is never broken, and can never be broken. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 On 5/4/2024 at 9:55 PM, Robed Mystic said: I don't think so. Why? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 (edited) 1 minute ago, Phil said: Why? It's still down - with no communication from Leo at all - i think its a week now. HIs blog is tied to the website/forum so unless he putx out a video no one knows what is going on. And all videos stopped months ago. I hope all is well with him, that's all i can say. It could be nothing, but i've never seen it offline for this long, its usually just a few hours. I can't imagine he had a complete disaster and failure of the hard drives - its possible though - i'm not sure what type of redundancy he had and I don't think he hosted it in the cloud. Edited May 6 by Robed Mystic Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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