Isagi Yoichi Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) why christians say Jesus is god and the son of god at the same time? I was talking to a Christian he said that our nature as humans is not divine as Jesus lol. he also said this lol : "Because we are made in the image of God and are not God himself. Genesis 1:26 ESV [26] Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” Message #christianity" Edited April 2 by Isagi Yoichi Quote Mention for coding & software engineering services message me on discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Ever notice gods pronouns are our/ours? Seems so conspicuously overlooked for some reason. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isagi Yoichi Posted April 2 Author Share Posted April 2 2 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: Ever notice gods pronouns are our/ours? Seems so conspicuously overlooked for some reason. yeah in the quran its the same too the word our is used even tough its god who is speaking Quote Mention for coding & software engineering services message me on discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Just now, Isagi Yoichi said: yeah in the quran its the same too the word our is used even tough its god who is speaking And somehow, they are referred to as "he" all the time, and so-called Bible thumpers are among the biggest objectors to "they/them" pronouns. The irony just gets deeper and darker, the harder they seem to "believe". Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 As far as the son of God thing, it's interesting that the Jesus cycle coincides with the waning and waxing of the "sun". In a person's birth chart the position of the sun informs the sense of "self". But where is the boundary between self and other? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isagi Yoichi Posted April 2 Author Share Posted April 2 39 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: As far as the son of God thing, it's interesting that the Jesus cycle coincides with the waning and waxing of the "sun". In a person's birth chart the position of the sun informs the sense of "self". But where is the boundary between self and other? i dont know what is that? Quote Mention for coding & software engineering services message me on discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 5 minutes ago, Isagi Yoichi said: i dont know what is that? What is what? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isagi Yoichi Posted April 2 Author Share Posted April 2 47 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: the Jesus cycle coincides with the waning and waxing of the "sun". In a person's birth chart the position of the sun informs the sense of "self". But where is the boundary between self and other? this Jesus cycle thing Quote Mention for coding & software engineering services message me on discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 3 minutes ago, Isagi Yoichi said: this Jesus cycle thing Birth/death/resurrection corresponds to the solstices. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isagi Yoichi Posted April 2 Author Share Posted April 2 am i allowed to talk about religions here , am I breaking rules? Quote Mention for coding & software engineering services message me on discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isagi Yoichi Posted April 2 Author Share Posted April 2 @Jonas Long Jesus how is jesus son and god at the same time lol? Quote Mention for coding & software engineering services message me on discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 1 minute ago, Isagi Yoichi said: @Jonas Long Jesus how is jesus son and god at the same time lol? All resurrection gods are based on the sun cycle, from Horace to Jesus, that's why Christian holidays are the same days as the pagan ones and the ones before that. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 3 minutes ago, Isagi Yoichi said: @Jonas Long Jesus how is jesus son and god at the same time lol? Nonduality, not 2 Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, Isagi Yoichi said: why christians say Jesus is god and the son of god at the same time? “There aren’t separate selves”. ”You / you people believe there aren’t separate selves!” “Jesus is God and the son of God at the same time.” ”Christians say Jesus is God and the son of God at the same time!” 1 hour ago, Isagi Yoichi said: I was talking to a Christian he said that “Jesus is God and the son of God”. “I was talking to a Christian and he said that…” 1 hour ago, Isagi Yoichi said: our nature as humans is not divine as Jesus lol. It isn’t, as in the belief (our nature as humans) is obscuring. 1 hour ago, Isagi Yoichi said: he also said this lol : "Because we are made in the image of God and are not God himself. Genesis 1:26 ESV [26] Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” Message #christianity" Put another way, we is movie (image). We is made, of movie (image). Screen is, screen. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Quote Mention There must be an effortless way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Links Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 I've had to re-write this post because I thought that "Son of God" isn't a Jewish term, but a Greco-Roman Pagan one: there were numerous demigods and demigoddesses born with mixed parentage of divine & human. Eg Hercules, Achilles, Aeneas, Helen of Troy. However I just found out that "Son of God" appears several times in the Old Testament (Genesis 6:2, 4; Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7; Hosea 1:10) . But how to reconcile being a Son of God and God at the same time? And 'God the Father' wasn't his father in the nativity story anyway, it was the Holy Spirit which came to Mary. My amateur guess would be that the early church leaders wanted to attract both Jews and Pagans into their new religion, and were creating a hybrid theology to appeal to both. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isagi Yoichi Posted April 2 Author Share Posted April 2 @Phil Why Jesus is the son of god? Quote Mention for coding & software engineering services message me on discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 2 minutes ago, Isagi Yoichi said: @Phil Why Jesus is the son of god? What do you mean why? He isn't really anyway, it's allegorical. All early religions had a resurrection/solar God. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 2 hours ago, Isagi Yoichi said: @Phil Why Jesus is the son of god? To convey a message. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Tim Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 9 hours ago, Jonas Long said: Bible thumpers are among the biggest objectors to "they/them" pronouns. well sure, because the Bible also states clearly that God created them, man and woman. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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