Serenity Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Ā So, how do you reconcile having already or being already what you're looking for with expressing/feeling past negative self-referential thoughts/emotions? Ā I can entertain pretty well two seemingly different ideas at the same time, but I am having a hard time with emotional paradoxes like thisĀ š« . Ā @PhilĀ š¤š„¹ Ā (Btw, Phil -> FEEL, coincidence?Ā šš²) Ā Quote Mention āKnow yourself as nothing; feel yourself as everything.ā - Rupert Spira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Past as in from the pastā¦ or past as in getting through / getting pastā¦? Quote Mention YouTubeĀ Ā WebsiteĀ Ā Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serenity Posted February 19 Author Share Posted February 19 I had past as 'from the past' in mind.Ā Ā While I conceptually know the past is gone, the emotions are still kept alive in the present moment because they seemingly were suppressed and are still to be felt and accepted. Ā But there is also a wish to go through it, 'past it' in the second sense of the word and finally be released of that energy. Quote Mention āKnow yourself as nothing; feel yourself as everything.ā - Rupert Spira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serenity Posted February 19 Author Share Posted February 19 š¤ @Phil Ā Thanks again for being this forum's dad. Much love. Quote Mention āKnow yourself as nothing; feel yourself as everything.ā - Rupert Spira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 minute ago, Serenity said: š¤ @Phil Ā Thanks again for being this forum's dad. Much love. Thatās very sweet. āŗļø Much love! Ā 2 hours ago, Serenity said: So, how do you reconcile having already or being already what you're looking for with expressing/feeling past negative self-referential thoughts/emotions? Go the āother wayā with this. Instead of how can this be reconciledā¦ why is this not possible to reconcile? Quote Mention YouTubeĀ Ā WebsiteĀ Ā Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serenity Posted February 20 Author Share Posted February 20 19 hours ago, Phil said: Go the āother wayā with this. Instead of how can this be reconciledā¦ why is this not possible to reconcile? Because negative self-referential thoughts and feelings feel bad and they are believed in when they arise. Ā Of course, they are only ego, and the SELF, which is actually who I am is full and is the one who is and have everything I am looking for. Ā I think I answered my own question thanks to this question you asked me. What do you think of it? Ā š¤ Quote Mention āKnow yourself as nothing; feel yourself as everything.ā - Rupert Spira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) 20 hours ago, Phil said: Thatās very sweet. āŗļø Much love! Ā Go the āother wayā with this. Instead of how can this be reconciledā¦ why is this not possible to reconcile? @SerenityI think what he means is that "the past" is a thought. So its not really there. How are you going to reconcile something that is not there? That would just be more thoughts about something that is not there. Edited February 20 by WhiteOwl Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serenity Posted February 20 Author Share Posted February 20 Yes, that's another perspective on it. But it seems to me that this addition matches the reply. Ā I am not sure whether 'the past' always pertains to the ego or not (though it is always a concept, it can be discussed without direct self-reference for practical purposes), but self-referential thoughts and feelings about a past self always involve the ego. Therefore, they can feel very real for the identified self, but they are ultimately just illusions experienced by the whole, perfect, unified consciousness. Quote Mention āKnow yourself as nothing; feel yourself as everything.ā - Rupert Spira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 5 hours ago, Serenity said: What do you think of it? Whatās āa thinkerā? Quote Mention YouTubeĀ Ā WebsiteĀ Ā Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serenity Posted February 20 Author Share Posted February 20 5 minutes ago, Phil said: Whatās āa thinkerā? An illusionĀ Quote Mention āKnow yourself as nothing; feel yourself as everything.ā - Rupert Spira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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