Phil Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Someone here said: My own proplem with the scale is how exactly should I "jump " from the currently experienced emotion (by expressing ) to the higher one . Start simply. Does the thought “my own problem” feel great, or not great? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Phil said: Start simply. Does the thought “my own problem” feel great, or not great? Not great hehe. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 @Someone here Before jumping to the next higher emotion, there is the acknowledgment of the emotion presently felt. As ‘my own problem’ feels not great, which emotion on the scale seems to be most likely felt? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Phil said: Before jumping to the next higher emotion, there is the acknowledgment of the emotion presently felt. I understand. Suppose I feel jealousy. And I express it to the brim (literally writing 10 pages on my expression journal). Then HOW to express the next emotion? Because I'm not experiencing it . 4 minutes ago, Phil said: As ‘my own problem’ feels not great, which emotion on the scale seems to be most likely felt? Pessimism. The next one is boredom. So how do I move from Pessimism to boredom? These are two drastically different emotions. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Someone here said: I understand. Suppose I feel jealousy. And I express it to the brim (literally writing 10 pages on my expression journal). Then HOW to express the next emotion? Because I'm not experiencing it . Emotion isn’t felt in a future. 1 minute ago, Someone here said: Pessimism. The next one is boredom. So how do I move from Pessimism to boredom? These are two drastically different emotions. What needs to happen or change, for you to feel contentment? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Phil said: Emotion isn’t felt in a future. Yup. It is felt here & now . So the suggestion in the page on the emotional scale is to express the next emotion after you've expressed the previous one without skipping. I'm curious how is that done ? Can you give me an example? 7 minutes ago, Phil said: What needs to happen or change, for you to feel contentment? This Is a general question or just pertaining to the emotional scale ? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, Someone here said: Yup. It is felt here & now . So the suggestion in the page on the emotional scale is to express the next emotion after you've expressed the previous one without skipping. I'm curious how is that done ? Can you give me an example? Rather than an example, focus (effortlessly) and simply, on the emotion experienced now. 6 minutes ago, Someone here said: This Is a general question or just pertaining to the emotional scale ? You mentioned pessimism. Is pessimism experienced, as guidance for the thought, ‘my own problem’? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Phil said: Rather than an example, focus (effortlessly) and simply, on the emotion experienced now OK. Pessimism . Let it be . 6 minutes ago, Phil said: You mentioned pessimism. Is pessimism experienced, as guidance for the thought, ‘my own problem’? Yes. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 @Someone here What needs to happen or change for you to feel contentment (right now)? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, Phil said: @Someone here What needs to happen or change for you to feel contentment (right now)? That's a big a question. I need a lot of things ...money ..my own house ..my own car ..my own wife/girlfriend..my own social circle ..good health and being free from smoking addiction that took a toll on me ..consciously creating what I want . My dream life . So basically a lot of materialistic pursuits I'm not spiritually advanced as to say that happiness is my true nature and I can be blessed out just sitting in meditation doing nothing . I need stimulation. Netflix...porn..movies..video games ..smoking etc etc Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Someone here said: That's a big a question. I need a lot of things ...money ..my own house ..my own car ..my own wife/girlfriend..my own social circle ..good health and being free from smoking addiction that took a toll on me ..consciously creating what I want . My dream life . So basically a lot of materialistic pursuits I'm not spiritually advanced as to say that happiness is my true nature and I can be blessed out just sitting in meditation doing nothing . I need stimulation. Netflix...porn..movies..video games ..smoking etc etc I suggest you dopamine detox first so you can work on things you want with sober head and more clarity.You need to change drastically if you want results. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Alexander said: I suggest you dopamine detox first so you can work on things you want with sober head and more clarity.You need to change drastically if you want results. What is dopamine detox ? Basically abstaining from anything that elevates dopamine? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Someone here said: What is dopamine detox ? Basically abstaining from anything that elevates dopamine? Yes exactly no porn no video games no smoking etc. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Alexander said: Yes exactly no porn no video games no smoking etc. Lol I can't. I just can't okay ? Like ..I JUST CAN'T 😂 Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonduallogic Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) I think, instead of trying to jump to a higher frequency, it is more beneficial to simply acknowledge what your current frequency, or emotion, is, and just allow yourself to relax into it and surrender to it. And i don't think it is not really very important for the scale to be precise for your experience, because i think it is just created as a possible road map. The key is to help you acknowledge how you are feeling and what you are thinking briefly, without getting too lost in the details, and relax into it by acknowledging it, so to speak. Trying to make a jump to a higher frequency actually turns you even further upstream, at least in my experience, hmm. Edited November 21, 2023 by nonduallogic Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Just now, Someone here said: Lol I can't. I just can't okay ? Like ..I JUST CAN'T 😂 Then you will same results in your life over and over again.I've done it and my mood get elevated and I felt happier overall,more productive and I find joy in learning new skills which I can monetize for more money.One bit I am not interested in non duality I see it just as empty philosophy which doesn't contribute to quality of your life. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, nonduallogic said: I think, instead of trying to jump to a higher frequency, it is more beneficial to simply acknowledge what your current frequency, or emotion, is, and just allow yourself to relax into it and surrender to it. And i don't think it is not really very important for the scale to be precise for your experience, because i think it is just created as a possible road map. The key is to help you acknowledge how you are feeling and what you are thinking briefly, without getting too lost in the details, and relax into it by acknowledging it, so to speak. Trying to make a jump to a higher frequency actually turns you even further upstream, at least in my experience, hmm. Then your vibration is not very high since you are attracting me. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, Alexander said: Then you will same results in your life over and over again.I've done it and my mood get elevated and I felt happier overall,more productive and I find joy in learning new skills which I can monetize for more money.One bit I am not interested in non duality I see it just as empty philosophy which doesn't contribute to quality of your life. Interested to know more ... Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Someone here said: Interested to know more ... Just do it man don't be a weakling. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 41 minutes ago, Someone here said: That's a big a question. I need a lot of things ...money ..my own house ..my own car ..my own wife/girlfriend..my own social circle ..good health and being free from smoking addiction that took a toll on me ..consciously creating what I want . My dream life . So basically a lot of materialistic pursuits I'm not spiritually advanced as to say that happiness is my true nature and I can be blessed out just sitting in meditation doing nothing . I need stimulation. Netflix...porn..movies..video games ..smoking etc etc Do these aspects need to change for you to feel contentment with this moment as it is? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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