Alexander Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 I feel scared of possible withdrawal. They say get through 72 hours and that seems so long.I already quited once and I know I will experience hell and insanity. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, Alexander said: I feel scared of possible withdrawal. They say get through 72 hours and that seems so long.I already quited once and I know I will experience hell and insanity. Don't worry man, keep meditating each morning. The withdrawals will be felt, but that's fine too! Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted November 13, 2023 Author Share Posted November 13, 2023 22 minutes ago, Orb said: Don't worry man, keep meditating each morning. The withdrawals will be felt, but that's fine too! I plan to meditate for hours this week.That will be a way to fully feel withdrawals and cravings and not be afraid of them.Hope I will make it Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted November 13, 2023 Author Share Posted November 13, 2023 @Orb Do you still use kratom? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 16 minutes ago, Alexander said: I plan to meditate for hours this week.That will be a way to fully feel withdrawals and cravings and not be afraid of them.Hope I will make it You got this, I quit nicotine a long time ago and the withdrawals were like 3 days for me. Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 16 minutes ago, Alexander said: @Orb Do you still use kratom? Nope Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted November 13, 2023 Author Share Posted November 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Orb said: Nope Wow you got clean on all addictions.That's my goal too. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, Alexander said: Wow you got clean on all addictions.That's my goal too. Just relaxation and meditation do the trick. Not using substances wasn't an accomplishment for me, more of a byproduct of letting go of thoughts. Substance use is fundamentally a learned method of avoiding feeling certain emotions. Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted November 14, 2023 Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 I am not feeling very well like all joy in life was sucked of and only darkness was left. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Alexander said: I am not feeling very well like all joy in life was sucked of and only darkness was left. Keep going 💪. Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted November 15, 2023 Author Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) I relapsed but I will try to quit again.I've felt like shit. Edited November 15, 2023 by Alexander Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 6 hours ago, Alexander said: I relapsed but I will try to quit again.I've felt like shit. Read Allen Carr's Easy Way To Stop Smoking. It's literally an easy way. No need to use willpower to fight urges or suffer withdrawal. If you read it with good will and an open mind, you'll quit without any feeling of loss or deprivation. You can probably find in pretty much any bookstore or online. Or even a pirated version for free by googling, but I'd say to buy it, because paying money for something you want has certain powerful strenght to it. And downloading pirated material is illegal. The book helps you to remove the illusions which make it seem like quitting is hard and requires willpower. https://www.amazon.com/Allen-Carrs-Easy-Stop-Smoking/dp/0615482155 Quote Mention There must be an effortless way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted November 15, 2023 Author Share Posted November 15, 2023 @Blessed2 I found it with my native language subtitles. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 @Alexander do you workout? Daily exercise lowers cravings significantly and also speeds up healing. In my experience daily meditation and exercise have very synergistic effects. Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Orb said: Daily exercise lowers cravings significantly and also speeds up healing. In my experience daily meditation and exercise have very synergistic effects. +1♥️ Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 On 11/13/2023 at 7:01 AM, Alexander said: I will experience hell and insanity The emotions / guidance that was suppressed by the substance. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Phil said: The emotions / guidance that was suppressed by the substance. In a case of a substance addiction... Maybe what's suppressed is the guidance felt of thoughts about the substance / addiction. Does that make sense? "I smoke because I have trauma / I feel down because this and that, and smoking makes me feel better." vs. "I smoke because I believe smoking makes me feel better." Quote Mention There must be an effortless way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 @Blessed2 It’s not like I’m disagreeing or saying that’s wrong. It’s that guidance is for thoughts. There is no separate self. No one who smokes, etc. No one who’s addicted. There are experiential bodily considerations, momentum etc… yet no separate self ‘inside the body’. A case could be made that substances created by people are to suppress the truth of there being no people. Even with psychedelics, people-made substances contribute to suppression, bypassing, aversion, etc. Whereas mushrooms do not give ‘two’ fucks about such nonsense. This seems to be why when meditation & mico-dosing are suggested, people don’t listen, yet will believe people such as doctors, and take synthetic fabricated medications readily. People seem to simply believe (trust) other people without even noticing, most often, it’s in spite of the guidance / to suppress the guidance. But really ‘don’t listen’ just means momentarily. Every listens in the end, but then it’s too late to hear. ‘I feel scared’, as compared to listening to the guidance of fear for example. “Try these free natural methods.” ”Fuck you spiritual woo woo neo-advaitan people” ”uh, ok” 🤷♀️ Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted January 26 Author Share Posted January 26 I just want to celebrate.I am feeling better and have more energy. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 💪❤️🎉 Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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