Orb Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 I'm not satisfied with spiritual experiences anymore and I've lost my interest in meditation because of that. When I meditate I'm guaranteed to get into a non dual state nearly every time. There's really nothing special about it, it sounds cool but it's just another experience and there's still the craving for me. The non dual experience feels like a full body non localized awareness of everything. It feels like becoming vast expansiveness yet simultaneously infinite contraction into the smallest thing in the universe. Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James123 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, Orb said: I'm not satisfied with spiritual experiences anymore and I've lost my interest in meditation because of that. When I meditate I'm guaranteed to get into a non dual state nearly every time. There's really nothing special about it, it sounds cool but it's just another experience and there's still the craving for me. The non dual experience feels like a full body non localized awareness of everything. It feels like becoming vast expansiveness yet simultaneously infinite contraction into the smallest thing in the universe. Any experience, feelings, you, your awareness, meditation has nothing do with non dual state. Non dual state = Completely freedom. Completely freedom is not feeling the freedom. It is completely disappearing, it is completely being without a boundaries. Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted January 11, 2023 Author Share Posted January 11, 2023 @James123 that's not something I can do. I can't be free. Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted January 11, 2023 Author Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) @James123 none of you enlightened folks actually stepped into enlightenment, rather it was God's grace that blessed you guys. So how can we be expected to jump off the cliff into nirvana? Edited January 11, 2023 by Orb Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James123 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, Orb said: @James123 that's not something I can do. I can't be free. Definitely. “You” are the prison itself. 7 minutes ago, Orb said: @James123 none of you enlightened folks actually stepped into enlightenment, rather it was God's grace that blessed you guys. So how can we be expected to jump off the cliff into nirvana? Knowledge =You=God=Enlightenment =Illisuon. Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted January 11, 2023 Author Share Posted January 11, 2023 @James123 I can't let go of knowledge. I don't even know how to let it go. And ive lost faith in all the practices. Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted January 11, 2023 Author Share Posted January 11, 2023 @James123 I feel like a spiritual orphan waiting to be accepted by god but never getting that acceptance. Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James123 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Orb said: @James123 I can't let go of knowledge. I don't even know how to let it go. And ive lost faith in all the practices. These practices is not something oh let me go mediate etc. you have to let go your entire self/expectations/life etc. Enlightenment is easy, but surrendering till enlightenment happens is difficult. Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted January 11, 2023 Author Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) @James123 I don't know how to let go of those things. If you ask me to let go of an apple that's easy and I can do it, but thoughts and beliefs? That doesn't make sense to me. I've tried journaling and meditation and using crystals. Some people just aren't meant to awaken otherwise everyone would wake up, I just don't have the discipline for this stuff Edited January 11, 2023 by Orb Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loop Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 35 minutes ago, Orb said: So how can we be expected to jump off the cliff into nirvana? Where is the cliff? What is the fall? Quote Mention Ten thousand tears, One Belly Laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 The performance of this song was definitely satisfying. Express and let in some creativity. Or some humor. Or don't. Who cares. Nondual ain't nothin' special for no one, aren't even states. Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James123 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 42 minutes ago, Orb said: I don't know how to let go of those things. If you ask me to let go of an apple that's easy and I can do it, but thoughts and beliefs? It is more easy. Where is your thoughts, show me? At least yoy can show the apple 😀😀 43 minutes ago, Orb said: Some people just aren't meant to awaken otherwise everyone would wake up, I just don't have the discipline for this stuff So dont do it man fuck it. Lol. Maximum you will just suffer thats all. Live your life. Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 “State” would be two. Nonduality means not two. The “knower” or “understander” of “states” would be two, or, a second. Nonduality means not two. “The one” that’s not satisfied would be two, or, a second. Nonduality means not two. “The one” that “goes beyond nonduality” would be two, a second. Nonduality means not two. There’s no “enlightened folks”. There’s no “enlightened self”. Garbage in, garbage out. 🤢 😵🤮 ♥️ in, ♥️ out. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Orb said: I'm not satisfied with spiritual experiences anymore and I've lost my interest in meditation because of that. There is no 'I' that is not satisfied. That implies a 'seperate self' There is only one universal consciousness we all share. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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