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  1. @Indisguise

    One thing Jordan Peterson said really stood out for me: Dreams are the birthplace of thought. If that is the case, then: 

     

    Thoughts multiply and manifest. 

     

    If thoughts multiply and manifest, then dreams can be precursors of manifestation, by sparking the initial thought, which then can multiply, if one is willing to focus upon the thought that is being born out of a dream. And of course, aligning after waking up from the dream. 

     

    23 minutes ago, Phil said:

    and as well, how suppressed emotion relates to dreams as separate, which serve a purpose, or which one has. 

    Do you mean that suppressed emotions show up in dreams to show us what we want, and that we are not aligned with what we want (=separate)?

  2. 1 hour ago, Phil said:

    Might be a case of alignment with the addition of a connotation(s) slightly different than the definition(s).

    Language can be really confusing in communication sometimes. The definitions given don‘t resonate as much as what I thought hedonistic daoism points to. I thought hedonistic daoism is basically about the same message as alignment and dreamboarding. In the light of the given definitions, the resonance is not the same. That‘s also the reason why I find intention to be more important/relevant than the symbols which try to explicate the intention. 🤔

  3. 2 minutes ago, Phil said:

    Identity is transmuted.

    Oh, yeah. Right. 😁

     

    3 minutes ago, Phil said:

    Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters”.

    Hedonistic Daoists too, huh? And that's why an ego hijacks the dao? Because it creates an identity?

     

    3 minutes ago, Phil said:

    Known & knower, understood & understander, etc (ego)… levels, degrees of Self / infinite wakefulness (spiritual ego) vs… … Not Knowing / Truth. 🤍

    😊🙏

     

    7 minutes ago, Phil said:

    Ego is as appears as well. 

    How do you mean?

  4. 3 minutes ago, Phil said:

    (If done by ego) how would / how does one manifest & attract desire(s)?

    I'd (idk whether that "I" is ego or source) simply focus on whatever I want to attract, line up with the desire (transmuting discordant emotions) and keep the focus on the good feeling perspectives, until the desire manifests physically. Vibrational -> psychological -> physical.

     

    An ego would seek satisfaction in chasing external things. Source naturally feels good, and that's the source of satisfaction, not external things.

     

    But I'm not sure whether that answers your question. The (if done by ego) part confuses me a little.

     

    14 minutes ago, Orb said:

    @Lotus The thing that makes it seem egoic is the belief that manifestation can be turned on or off. 

     

    Attracting desires is your nature, you are Attraction, not just someone who can "do it" or not.

     

    See the magic behind desire/manifestation, its not just the mundane appearance of whatever you want to manifest. 

     

    We have this insatiable desire to create things and fully experience them. 

     

    Can you see this same force in all of nature? The plants keep growing, animals keep eating, humans keep on wanting. You cannot stop the force that makes all of creation want to blossom/expand.

     

    When we allow this force to come in and begin consciously creating, we are moved by inspiration and exciting thoughts that pop up. 

    Yes, I'm totally with you there!

     

    15 minutes ago, Orb said:

    The thing with "Crazy Wisdom" or Hedonistic Daoism is that its rooted in suppression rather than expression, and it uses spiritual terminology to cover it up. 

    That's the part where I can't really discern. Why would Hedonistic Daoism be rooted in suppresion rather than expression? For me, it basically sounded like Dreamboarding and doing whatever you want (which is fine, for me).

     

    But to be fair, that's just my first impression of Hedonistic Daoism. I'm really not well versed with that branch of spirituality.

     

    16 minutes ago, Orb said:

    I mean...would you ever write "Get blackout drunk and pass out" on your dreamboard? Does that sound like creating consciously or just putting yourself to sleep?

    I meaaann... if that's what I want, why not? 😁

    I could consciously create to put myself into sleep.

  5. 35 minutes ago, Phil said:

    Just two cents, but it sounds like the way of an ego hijacking the Dao, with a sprinkle of Truth.

    Reminds me a lot of the same objections with the dreamboard, LoA & manifesting desires. 🤔

  6. 48 minutes ago, nurthur11 said:

    You don't have to say anything to be at peace with death.

    Of course not. 

     

    39 minutes ago, Someone here said:

    You can live an amazing kick ass life and still fear death.

    Fully living and exhausting desires burn karma. Empty yourself and you will find yourself wanting to reside in being. Being is eternal aliveness. 

     

    44 minutes ago, Someone here said:

    Because how you live your life has nothing to do with the fact that you gonna die someday and it will definitely be a nasty experience.

    That‘s certainly not a universal truth, but your belief. 

     

    3 hours ago, Someone here said:

    Appreciate any thoughts or perspectives on the subject .

    Just a reminder, you asked for perspectives other than yours. Take my replies just as that.. a different perspective. 

  7. 2 hours ago, Someone here said:

    I know that Spiritual awakening is the solution, there's no another way around it.

    You could also live an amazing life, and then, when you're older, you could say, "I fuckin' lived". And then, you might be in peace with the thought of leaving this body one day.

     

    🙏

     

  8. @Indisguise

     

    Amazing, thanks so much dude. Reading the Daoist texts in nature sounds like a good idea, seeing the cycles of nature in real-time. So far, I've only read a few portions of The Tao of Systems Thinking, but you're inspiring me to read the Daodejing exclusively right now. I always wanted to read some Alan Watts too, so this is a good timing! 😄

     

    1 hour ago, Indisguise said:

    As it is also said in Daoism; "The scholar learns something every day. But the sage unlearns something every day." (chapter 48 Daodejing)

     

    Geez, I love it.

     

     

    1 hour ago, Indisguise said:

    There are a lot of German and English translations of the Daodejing and it's difficult to get a good one, because many translations actually miss some of the crucial meanings of some of the ideas of the Chinese language.

    My favorite translation (habs aus der Uni-Bibliothek von der JLU Gießen, hab da früher studiert😄) isn't in print anymore: "Laudse Daudedsching", by Ernst Schwarz published by the "dtv" (Deutscher Taschenbuchverlag), from 1980. It's a really good translation, the best one I've come across so far, and it has some nice commentary (which is certainly helpful, giving you some context in terms of Chinese culture and language of that time). 

    Dann warste ja gar nicht weit von mir entfernt. Ich werd mal Ausschau nach dem Buch halten. 😌

     

    Again, thank you for the recommendations! 🙏

  9. You might be tapping into what the Yogis called "The Breathless State". By all means, go to the doctor. But when it comes around again, I'd try relaxing into the breathlessness and making a rollercoaster ride out of it. Vanishing in it.

  10. 2 hours ago, Mandy said:

    The intent isn't to try to end up sounding like some god or super enlightened person or something, but to see where we are fooling ourselves/holding discordant thoughts and beliefs and let go of them.

    Funny enough, I started to curse more once I noticed that I tried to 'sound enlightened' in my 'spiritual phase'. To not become that annoying spiritual dude, I steered completely in the opposite direction, which only hardened the spiritual ego. I'm slowly becoming more comfortable with both extremes, not really caring whether I sound spiritual or vulgar. I think that's a good sign. And it feels good to go beyond the content of words. :classic_smile:

  11. On 6/1/2022 at 5:30 PM, Mandy said:

    Have you noticed other patterns in speech that we could align or use to become aware of our Selves? 

    I'm becoming increasingly aware of how I speak, rather than what I say. This is somewhat connected to intentful speaking; not letting the words count, but the intent behind them.

     

    If we expand the definition of speech to laughing, I've noticed that I sometimes use laughing as a reassurance gesture. Not because I find it funny, but because laughing calms me. Per se, there's nothing wrong with laughing, but I found that the laughs can sometimes be more of unconscious nature/ a learned pattern to calm innocently calm yourself, as if you wanna bury something discordant with that laugh. I think laughing is easy to inspect.. either your laugh is genuine or not genuine; the difference is pretty easy to notice, feeling wise. So.. either there is something to inspect behind that laugh, or you just have a good time.

     

    I've also noticed that I'm cursing a lot.. which I want to down regulate a bit. Not because there's ill intent behind it, but because it's simply a learned pattern which could be more aligned. :classic_laugh:

  12. Whaat there were themes the whole time?! I feel like a grandpa. I really dig the spirit island theme.

     

    Also, the grey and blue theme doesn't show the ActualityOfBeing icon anymore, in the top left.

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