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Ceejay
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2 hours ago, Robed Mystic said:
just saying you have found some of the best teachings on the planet and you have pondered reality itself
This could go to the gratitude journal.
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1 hour ago, Mandy said:
Yeah, you can't know that you don't know.
this above sentence
&
this below sentence
1 hour ago, Mandy said:Yet knowing that you don't know with peace and love is wisdom.
seems contradicting
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1 hour ago, Mandy said:doubt, fear or confusion,
if I interpret you correctly you said doubt, fear and confusion is believing to know what you don't know...
I don't get it.
Say I am driving a bike and a car suddenly appears to be coming to hit me superfast -- during this time I have fear... how is what you are saying applicable here?
If it isn't applicable, please provide a suitable example if you can.
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47 minutes ago, Robed Mystic said:
It's only a bad thing to the thing that is being split into two because then that thing goes away and there are two other things. It is only bad from the perspective of the thing that was.
This thing that seems to be in tact right now, but will be split into two, is always a matter pertaining to the current egoic configuration (in the present moment) which is being split apart.
When you say it is only bad for that which is being split apart, you are in effect saying that "you are currently being split apart, but it's not bad, because it is only bad for you (which is that is being split)"... which doesn't logically make much sense, unless you have undergone all the "splits" which could produce any more suffering as far as your dream-body vehicle is concerned (aka liberated).
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39 minutes ago, Robed Mystic said:
Division is the nature of reality. Without division there would only be pure Oneness. Division is not a bug but a feature.
Doesn't this also mean suffering is inevitable?
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11 minutes ago, Robed Mystic said:
Your mother is imaginary .
Insightful.
12 minutes ago, Robed Mystic said:She is merely you giving you a reason for why something is.
Maybe that is what she believes, or likes to interpret it.
13 minutes ago, Robed Mystic said:You will face them here because you have limited yourself to do that
But I don't remember myself limiting myself to experience reality?
Is it like the TV show Severance, where I, as God, has chosen to inhabit a dream world as a dream character, with some "amnesia" into the mix?
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1 hour ago, Phil said:
Maybe more so, is the very ‘story’ / interpretation which arises / appears… and in accordance with direct experience (should any one care to check) isn’t present / does not exist.
Yes, you are correct. Because the story essentially a thought, which is insubstantial.
Sometimes during meditation, I would have some judgmental thought about someone and it does not feel aligned, hence an out of alignment feeling occurs. But the thought/story/passing-judgement itself vanishes quickly from memory as I become aware of it, leaving only the lingering feeling-impression behind.
When this happens, do I need to rethink what I thought a moment ago which created the discord in order to remember the story, so that I could question it.... or is it better to leave what has left behind, and continue to focus on the feeling state?
1 hour ago, Phil said:Even more so… a belief loop isn’t a subject & object in the first place, but is an apparent belief or an assumed believing, and therein - wasn’t / isn’t / is never actually even some thing happening, but is in fact - nothing happening!
As unreal as the horns of a hare, as is said in Ribhu Gita.
1 hour ago, Phil said:The ego mind, which isn’t a thing and is just a communicative reference, will come up with endless thoughts in aversion from the simple acknowledge of an emotion. ‘It’ is essentially, in ostensible biblical terminology, the devil, and will even resort to claims of there being knowing and understanding. Anything to maintain an illusion of separation.
IMO, this is very insightful and true, what you said. A little seed of aversion grows into a tree of aversion, if this point is overlooked. Thanks for the solid pointing.
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55 minutes ago, Robed Mystic said:
Sometimes - it's OK to let loose - for if you don't, you will never get a chance to actually breath the air in.
Also, ones' BP would be high and there is a greater risk of dying from a heart attack if one is so uptight all the time. Thankfully, it's not my nature to be uptight and things are bettering as I meditate every day and stay sober.
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52 minutes ago, Robed Mystic said:
And yet - with all of that danger, you are still here, all those years later. Have you wondered why that is? Have you ever wondered why the dream is still running? Perhaps it is not just random.
Yes, I have. My mother said it's because of a particular diety's blessing that I am alive, after all that I have done.
Synchronicity is present too.
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7 minutes ago, Blessed2 said:
Yeah but that there wouldn't be a body in death is a total assumption.
Yes, but the gross body that one is used to would be hanging from the ceiling. That (gross) body has expired in suicide.
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Funnily enough, as an Indian who doesn't understand/talk in Hindi, that is where I am insecure about.
You are English is functional enough. Talking is different from writing, so that department might improve with more real life interaction.
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@Joseph Maynor You tend to revisit and read years' old posts here in this forum.. then think about it, and comment on them.. right?!
Very interesting 🙂
I was beginning to reply to this post about smoking, and realized that it was old and it came up because of your comment probably. Those who would read these later might benefit, so I am not complaining.
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10 hours ago, Blessed2 said:
Similarly, if there really is no death...
There really is no death?
10 hours ago, Blessed2 said:is it that we seem to kind of universally assume death is some kind of a solution to suffering,
I don't think one could actually ever know if it is universally assumed that death is a solution.
10 hours ago, Blessed2 said:There is really no actual reason to assume that death would hold any more of significance in terms of relieving suffering
Maybe it is the identification with the body that one is seeking to sever here, due to immense discomfort.
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41 minutes ago, Jane said:
But it's the only way the Self knows how to make sense of what is ultimately always this Nondual Self.
By projecting this illusion of a split between 'pointer' and 'pointed upon'?
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as in both are belief systems, and neither is true...
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@Phil Words create reality. Reality is whatever you say it is. Essentially this is what you have said above.
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On 2/24/2024 at 4:19 AM, Phil said:
That which is aware of & feeling the interpretation is neither a subject nor objective reality.
Then what is it? Clearly, happening is happening.
On 2/24/2024 at 4:19 AM, Phil said:The secondary interpretation is about that ‘off’, and the interpretation which explains yet does not reconcile, is that there is subject which is scared / concerned.
Agreed. The subject is presumed in the question and is needed to even raise the question, or the story (interpretation).
On 2/24/2024 at 4:19 AM, Phil said:What is believed to be felt? Scared & concerned.
What is believed to feel scared & concerned? A subject.
So labelling is the problem? Labelling something as "scary" and "someone" as "scared"?
It that is dropped, the belief loop is gone and there is no need to make up a "someone" who "knows how it is" or could know.
On 2/24/2024 at 4:19 AM, Phil said:To no longer experience the belief loop and no longer feel the offness of that interpretation, is to acknowledge what is actually felt, in regard to how the interpretation feels.
So feel the contrast between the two... and this will result in the natural dropping of the "interpretation", which is what creates misalignment... is what you are saying?
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It's getting better, as far as I can tell.
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@Mandy Okay, so then I have to let go of what I think is the "true" story.. and attachment to that..
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5 hours ago, Phil said:
That take on reality is indicative of programming, from those who’ve not really looked into the actuality of reality / being. It’s all conceptual justification & rationalization. Entirely nonsense as in, it simply does not resonate, and is not conducive to consciously creating.
The thing is I came from a different school/teaching... which sees everything in darwinian/neuroscientific logic system... the problem with these is that it tends to be atheistic and that tends to be problematic for me.
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5 hours ago, Mandy said:
Could it be that minus the dramatic interpretations...it's simply felt?
Yes, it could just be that, and it would not be much problematic, neither would it be lingering much, and probably would be cleansing/healing for the body-mind -- but the "this" + the "dramatic interpretations", tends to happen simulateneously and that is really uncomfortable.
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7 hours ago, Phil said:
How do you feel about that though?
I can't say now as that situation has passed, or hasn't happened. Only projected.
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5 hours ago, Phil said:
Word / text communicates about 5% in comparison to the group zoom calls. I don’t know if you’ve been on one yet, but there is one today at noon eastern. If you haven’t and are interested, just pm me your email address for the invite
No I haven't been in any meeting, and only recently have I begun frequently viewing/posting stuff in this forum you created, although I joined as a member a while ago. I won't be available today. But I will try to join next time. My laptop webcam quality is very poor.. I may need to use my phone for better video quality.. it's a video session right?
5 hours ago, Phil said:A lot of what you’re experiencing is of course likely symptomatic of withdrawal
That's a keen observation, and very likely true, as I have intitated lots of changes in my life. I have to push myself to do yoga these days, and meditation seems hard too some days.. but I am plodding on.. and doing it anyway... Also I'm a detoxing from video/audio content from the start of this month...
5 hours ago, Phil said:Good for you and congrats on addressing changes you want!
Tnx
5 hours ago, Phil said:but again, what transpires on the monthly group calls can’t really be communicated the same in text, and you’re always welcomed to partake.
I see. Thanks for pointing this out.
5 hours ago, Phil said:In all fairness, ‘the message’, or in large part what the calls center around, is non-aversion, non-resistance, non-denial. That something is happening is conditioning. Innocence, being in the verb sense, and therein, overlooking the true nature of self… it seems like something’s happening, for someone as some thing. I’m not a thing. You’re not a thing. We aren’t things. We do not exist inside of bodies. There aren’t finite separate things, and that is ‘the confusion’, ‘the ignore-ance’, the discord, the suffering, the ‘getting in one’s own way’. In the orientation of alignment which is indicative of well-being, truth & creating and experiencing more of what you actually want to… that’s really what the calls (and forum & videos) are about.
Attempting to ‘stop experiencing’ is attempting to bend the spoon. It’s not possible.
Realizing there isn’t the separation ‘experience’ implies, is entirely possible as it is what’s already the case.
Okay.
4 hours ago, Phil said:Suicide does not resolve anything and actually creates more suffering.
This is the second most clarifying information I’ve come across in that regard…
I don't want to do it. Sometimes, I tend to imagine very dire situations, or extremely violent thoughts happen or something like that... or sink into a general sense of despair after reading too much about war (outside me and inside me)... and that's when I imagine. But I never actually want to kick the pail... I used to think about how to do it.. if a truly hopeless situation comes up and there is no escape from it other than bucket-kicking..
you got the point.
Thanks for the concern... even though I just alluded to it rather indirectly.. I feel like commiting suicide when I tend to get so disillusioned to the point that I'm like a total atheist, who thinks there is no meaning in life and it's all darwinian selection and unutterable moanings of pain and terror, as creatures are getting eaten alive... you know -- who wouldn't want to kick the pail in that situation?
5 hours ago, Phil said:You’ve got a community here. Friends. Love. Support. You are loved and you belong as much as me and anyone else my friend. In one way or another we can all relate. This too shall pass is very true. It will get better. Breathe slowly & deeply. Ground. Be where you are. Sometimes life is a shitshow and you gotta relax and ride it out. Sounds like you’re already doing pretty damn good. Better than just riding it out. Keep it up. ♥️ Keep expressing / letting go. Clarity & alignment (feeling better) naturally ensues.
Thanks for all this.
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5 hours ago, Mandy said:
you want to cut off caffeine at noon or very early afternoon ideally if you have any issues sleeping.
Yes I do (plus waking up issues). I have to cut this out. Since I started meditation, yoga, a specific kind of digital detox tailored to me, and sobriety... it's already a little too much... That's why I am not currently pressurizing myself with the necessary diet changes (like reducing caffeine/sugar intake and staving off deep fried and all purpose flour food items.
5 hours ago, Mandy said:Try herbal teas late at night, lemon balm is really relaxing one and also helps your immune system as well, maybe with a little raw honey
Okay, I will try lemon balm. Haven't seen in the super market near I live, but it's available online.
5 hours ago, Mandy said:Stopping eating early in the evening can contribute to good sleep and more energetic mornings too.
I have to do this - stop eating by sun down. Every Sunday me and friend goes out together and he insists that I dine alongside him which is usually after 9 PM. After habituating myself the rest of the days of the week, I may have to tell him that "I'm sorry, I can wait outside the hotel or beside you, but I won't be eating late night with you"!
5 hours ago, Mandy said:Hormone levels make you itch more late at night when you're trying to fall asleep
Thanks for the info.
5 hours ago, Mandy said:Try a shea butter soap
Will try.
Why is suicide a thing?
in Well Being & Conscious Creating
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Understood. Resonating.
Have read this.
Got it. Thanks.