Criticism 2

[Eothasian]

Emotionally cold environment in public transportation. 

People are afraid to even look at each other's eyes. 

Clearly feeling beaten down by having to wake up in the morning has its causes. Why surpress your need to change it? For what? An idea that somehow only coldness reflects reality actually?

Phah!

 

Getting into it is like puring a drop of iodine into water, its level of iodine increases but the concentration of the drop in iodine decreases. 

How to keep on your love level during that? 

 

The kids recognize it though.

Edited August 15, 2022 by Eothasian

[nurthur11]

4 hours ago, Eothasian said:

Emotionally cold environment in public transportation. 

People are afraid to even look at each other's eyes. 

Clearly feeling beaten down by having to wake up in the morning has its causes. Why surpress your need to change it? For what? An idea that somehow only coldness reflects reality actually?

Phah!

 

Getting into it is like puring a drop of iodine into water, its level of iodine increases but the concentration of the drop in iodine decreases. 

How to keep on your love level during that? 

 

The kids recognize it though.

How do you love bro/sis? 
 

Its very easy to love.
 

It feels like your carrying or caring about your self or others. Not sure how to explain it. You have to try it sometimes!  

Edited August 15, 2022 by nurthur11

[Eothasian]

@nurthur11 What do you mean?

[nurthur11]

Try to love. 
 

 

Edited August 15, 2022 by nurthur11

[Eothasian]

2 minutes ago, nurthur11 said:

Try to love. 
 

 

I did

[nurthur11]

You don’t have to convince someone to look into your or someone else eyes. You have to try to love and in turn you will share a feeling of hope and optimism. 

[nurthur11]

Love is not always positive but it is persistent. 

[Phil]

Environments are warm & cold in terms of temperature but not in terms of emotion. Fear is an emotion directly felt with respect to thoughts. There can be the thought others are feeling fear, but this isn’t actually experienced by you. It’s a projection of emotion you’re feeling, onto others or an environment. If emotional ‘coldness’ reflected actual reality, it’d feel aligned & great. 

 

‘Keeping your love level’ is the same as saying ‘keeping yourself level’. There aren’t levels of yourself, there are thoughts which just don’t jive with the truth of the love you are… and the experience of these thoughts & beliefs is felt. This is how thoughts of criticism feel to unconditional you. 

 

It is like wanting someone else to feel bad… not noticing that wanting leaves you desiring alignment. 

 

Take some time to write in a journal about what you appreciate rather than a thread about criticizing. You’ll feel your true nature. Your level-less, endless, boundless self. 🤍

[Eothasian]

@nurthur11 I wasn't trying to convince anybody, I was feeling the potential that could have been. I shared as much as could subtlety hopefully it will help them approach it in the future easier.

[Eothasian]

7 minutes ago, Phil said:

There can be the thought others are feeling fear, but this isn’t actually experienced by you. It’s a projection of emotion you’re feeling, onto others or an environment.

What do you mean?

[Phil]

@Eothasian

5 hours ago, Eothasian said:

Emotionally cold environment in public transportation. 

Emotion is how thoughts feel. The thoughts about the environment feel ‘emotionally cold’, not the environment. 

5 hours ago, Eothasian said:

People are afraid to even look at each other's eyes. 

‘Sayin it like it actually is’ just to be as clear as possible - there is no such thing as ‘people’. There is the thought, or thoughts about there being separate selves, or, ‘people’. 

 

“Love is the absence of people”. - Rupert Spira

 

It’s the thoughts, the beliefs, that don’t feel good to you; love. 

5 hours ago, Eothasian said:

Clearly feeling beaten down by having to wake up in the morning has its causes. Why surpress your need to change it? For what? An idea that somehow only coldness reflects reality actually?

Phah!

 

Getting into it is like puring a drop of iodine into water, its level of iodine increases but the concentration of the drop in iodine decreases. 

How to keep on your love level during that? 

 

The kids recognize it though.

Love isn’t in or of levels. Love is infinite. You are love. You are infinite. 

The love you are, and that I am is like the clear & endless sky. 

When clouds appear in the sky - the sky does not go somewhere or disappear. 

The analogy is for thoughts (clouds), and the true nature, love… and the emotions felt therein. When these thoughts of criticism & that other people feel afraid arise, it is the thoughts which are felt. It is not that the thoughts are true, and that is what’s felt. Put another way, this is how criticism & projection feels. It’s not how an environment & other people feel… which is really Good News… because if you’re honest, all you actually want is the feeling that you are, the feeling of the love that you are. 

 

From the perspective explored on this thread, you’d have to change the environment & other people, to be able to feel the love that you are. 

But in truth, you don’t have to change anything at all. Some thoughts are discordant simply because they aren’t true, and aren’t indicative of the truth, which is love, which is you. There is only to let the discordant thoughts go, which isn’t an action or a doing. It’s letting go of a continuing of doing, of action… which is focusing on discordant thoughts… even though it’s discordant, tiring, draining, etc. There is no effort is focusing instead on thoughts of appreciation. 

 

“Holding anger is like holding a hot coal in your hand, and expecting someone else is feeling the burn”. - The Buddha

 

[Eothasian]

Oh, I understand. Yeah I see.

 

21 minutes ago, Phil said:

There is only to let the discordant thoughts go, which isn’t an action or a doing. It’s letting go of a continuing of doing, of action… which is focusing on discordant thoughts…

 

I can't, that would be too easy. What have we learned then?

How do you expect yourself  letting go of your fears without working through them?

[nurthur11]

On 8/15/2022 at 1:35 PM, Eothasian said:

@nurthur11 I wasn't trying to convince anybody, I was feeling the potential that could have been. I shared as much as could subtlety hopefully it will help them approach it in the future easier.

Cool then🙂 

 

Its better than nothing

Edited August 17, 2022 by nurthur11

[Phil]

On 8/15/2022 at 8:15 AM, Eothasian said:

I can't, that would be too easy. What have we learned then?

How do you expect yourself  letting go of your fears without working through them?

 

On 8/15/2022 at 2:24 AM, Eothasian said:

Emotionally cold environment in public transportation. 

People are afraid to even look at each other's eyes. 

Letting go of the the discordant thoughts about emotionally cold being of the environment and fear something in others would be you working through your fears. 

[Eothasian]

10 minutes ago, Phil said:

Letting go of the the discordant thoughts about emotionally cold being of the environment and fear something in others would be you working through your fears. 

They don't haunt me, if that's what you mean?

[Phil]

@Eothasian

No. I’m not really sure what ‘they haunt me’ or  ‘they don’t haunt me’ would mean. 

[Eothasian]

1 minute ago, Phil said:

@Eothasian

No. I’m not really sure what ‘they haunt me’ or  ‘they don’t haunt me’ would mean. 

The discordant thoughts menioned.

[Phil]

@Eothasian

Thanks. Discordant thoughts tend to continue to arise if believed. Including thoughts of criticism. 

 

Housekeeping… the forum is English only, thanks. 

 

[Eothasian]

26 minutes ago, Phil said:

Discordant thoughts tend to continue to arise if believed. Including thoughts of criticism.

Oh, yeah I have noticed that.

 

27 minutes ago, Phil said:

Housekeeping… the forum is English only, thanks

Ok