Orb Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 "You are not the thinker." So simple, so straightforward. Thought is coming from the "outside" not inside, and not even the outside. What seems like insanity is sanity. Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted October 23, 2023 Author Share Posted October 23, 2023 Thoughts are heard or received. It's like all the thoughts are arising but it's not me. Is this craziness? This seems like the most sane shit ever but the ego/collective ego makes this seem like craziness. The thoughts are outside, almost as if they are coming into the sphere and there's the ability to acknowledge the thought or not. Like if your mom calls your name from the kitchen while youre playing video games you can ignore her calls right? "Orb! Orb! Dinners ready!" There's a clear recognition that those words - that thought- isn't you. The same is the case for thoughts arising right now. Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted October 23, 2023 Author Share Posted October 23, 2023 Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 I was listening to a piece of nisargaddatas writings on YouTube and he said exactly what was being pointed to in the OP! Essentially (a paraphrased version): "What you think is inside you is actually outside you (not identifying with thought), what you think is outside you is actually inside you (the spheres)". Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 Also, thoughts aren't generated or as Phil has mentioned: thunk. Thoughts are received. Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Thoughts are generated by the brain.@Orb Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 23 hours ago, Orb said: Thoughts are heard or received. It's like all the thoughts are arising but it's not me. Is this craziness? This seems like the most sane shit ever but the ego/collective ego makes this seem like craziness. The thoughts are outside, almost as if they are coming into the sphere and there's the ability to acknowledge the thought or not. Like if your mom calls your name from the kitchen while youre playing video games you can ignore her calls right? "Orb! Orb! Dinners ready!" There's a clear recognition that those words - that thought- isn't you. The same is the case for thoughts arising right now. Does everybody on this forum live with their mother?? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, Alexander said: Thoughts are generated by the brain.@Orb Thoughts are received. The belief that they are generated by a brain in a human reinforces the separate self belief. And also is a way to perpetuate the separate self thought. Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 @Alexander the aim of the game here is to disidentify with thoughts. Not to battle with one set of beliefs vs another. Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Orb said: Thoughts are received. The belief that they are generated by a brain in a human reinforces the separate self belief. And also is a way to perpetuate the separate self thought. Why can't I "receive" your thoughts but just my own.It's because we have 2 separate brains and yes we are 2 separated individuals. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Orb said: @Alexander the aim of the game here is to disidentify with thoughts. Not to battle with one set of beliefs vs another. Thoughts help me navigate life. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Alexander said: Why can't I "receive" your thoughts but just my own.It's because we have 2 separate brains and yes we are 2 separated individuals. Thoughts are received. Thoughts, not "my thoughts" or "your thoughts". Just thoughts. See in direct experience, thoughts just come outta nowhere. Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Alexander said: Thoughts help me navigate life. Disidentify, not destroy. Thoughts are amazing. Identification is suffering. Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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