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I've been sitting down wondering what specific condition is being held for happiness to be felt. 

 

The condition held is that I have to be feeling good in order to allow happiness. 

 

I feel drained from watching lots of porn and overeating, and I notice that I cannot let go of the condition held (that I must be free from porn and not feeling drained to allow happiness). 

 

Then I try to let go of the condition, but it only makes things worse. 

 

Like first there's resistance, then there's resisting the resistance by trying to make it go away. 

 

Is it better to try to let go of resistance or to stop resisting the resistance and just suffer 🤔.  

 

What if the key to end suffering is to fully allow suffering without the added suffering of trying to make the suffering stop?

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"Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless."

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I´ve found that seeing that your suffering is your 'assigned karma' helps a lot in accepting it.

 

See your suffering as the fuel that has been created for you in order to get to liberation

 

Over indulging in porn sucks, I know how that feels. But im sure it's not that bad, at least probably you are not into hot brats taking your money and humiliating you harshly for it as me. 🤣 

 

 

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13 hours ago, Orb said:

Is it better to try to let go of resistance or to stop resisting the resistance and just suffer 🤔.  


Isn’t the idea that you have to stop or let go of the resistance actually the resistance?
There isn’t anything to let go of, or the letting go of is actually just what is naturally occurring constantly.
Impermanence. 
 

It is ok to just feel some of something and then go back to it. Breathe in and out. Inquire, relax, inquire, relax. Focus on the intention, on curiosity, and well-being. 
 

Here is the thing with the trapped resistance energies. They are trying to protect you, and it might not be time for defence mechanisms/ armouring to be let go of. Deprogram slowly with intense passionate curiosity and smooth calm relaxation. You don’t need to process the entirety of a repressed/ suppressed energy all right now today. We can allow ourself space/ time, to breathe, to allow the resistance to settle, repression to come out from the inside, and the stories trapped in the body to melt through expression. 
 

Ten thousand tears,

One Belly Laugh.

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@Phil what's known is I, Myself, You, Me, exists. Thoughts of conversations with people arise still. I want to forget self and other.

"Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless."

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3 minutes ago, Phil said:

@Orb

Does exists = not happiness? 

In a way yea. 

"Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless."

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@Phil that when thoughts about self or other arise, there's a constricted feeling and it hinders the natural expansiveness.

"Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless."

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Just now, Phil said:

@Orb

Examples of said thoughts?

Anything with "I", monologs thoughts about what I likes, desires, is. And also just conversations with imaginary people lol.

"Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless."

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1 minute ago, Phil said:

@Orb

Is that you’re imagining people what’s known? 

Yes, imagining self and other. I want to completely forget myself and others. Only Love will be left! Aka....LIFE ❤️‍🔥

"Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless."

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@Phil there's no one there honestly, it's just a pattern of specific thoughts arising.

"Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless."

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@Phil yes. Somethoughts arise that don't feel good, but those thoughts are let go, there's no way to force them into aligning with feeling.

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"Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless."

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@Phil like self referential thoughts are arising right now, there's nothing that can be done, except stop resisting them.

"Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless."

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@ConsciousDreamer666 don't let those ladies humiliate you 🥲 tell them you are that!!! And so are they 🙂

 

@Loop I like your understanding of trauma and emotional stuff. I've been doing TRE for many days in a row and letting stuff come up and out. Although it still seems like the right way so to speak is to stop resisting resistance. Like if you find yourself not satisfied with the moment, why not just stay there? Instead of saying oh no I shouldn't be resisting this moment, this is wrong.

 

 

"Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless."

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1 hour ago, Orb said:

@Phil yes. Somethoughts arise that don't feel good, but those thoughts are let go, there's no way to force them into aligning with feeling.

1 hour ago, Orb said:

@Phil like self referential thoughts are arising right now, there's nothing that can be done, except stop resisting them.

Agreed but even more so it’s telling you who you really are. Guidance. 

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