What is Deep Sleep?

[Orb]

Just occurred to me that Love is fucking perfect! Like just awesome. 

 

Is deep sleep actually complete wakefulness? 

 

When Love isn't appearing as the spheres would you say it's like deep sleep where there's no one to be conscious or anything at all, not even the concept of nothingness? 

 

Upon self-realizing, are you in a permanent deep sleep, yet still capable of being conscious? (Being conscious meaning: thought arises)

[Alexander]

Deep sleep, also known as slow-wave sleep (SWS) or delta sleep, is a stage of sleep characterized by slow brain waves known as delta waves. It is one of the four stages of sleep and is considered the most restorative and physically rejuvenating stage.

 

During deep sleep, the body undergoes important physiological processes, including tissue repair, muscle growth, and the release of growth hormones. It is believed to play a critical role in memory consolidation and learning, as well as in promoting overall brain health and cognitive function.

 

Some key features of deep sleep include:

 

Brain Waves: Deep sleep is associated with synchronized, slow brain waves known as delta waves, which have a frequency of 0.5 to 4 Hz.

 

Physical Relaxation: The muscles are relaxed during deep sleep, and there is a decrease in heart rate, blood pressure, and breathing rate.

 

Limited Dreaming: Deep sleep is typically dreamless, in contrast to the rapid eye movement (REM) sleep stage, which is characterized by vivid dreams.

 

Difficult to Wake: It is generally more challenging to awaken someone from deep sleep compared to other sleep stages. If awakened from deep sleep, individuals often feel groggy or disoriented.

 

Hormonal Regulation: Deep sleep is associated with the release of important hormones, such as growth hormone, which aids in tissue repair, cell regeneration, and overall growth.

 

The amount of deep sleep a person needs can vary, but it typically constitutes about 20-25% of the total sleep time in healthy adults. Deep sleep usually occurs in the first half of the night, while REM sleep becomes more prominent in the latter half.

 

Various factors can influence the quality and duration of deep sleep, including age, sleep disorders, lifestyle habits, and certain medications. Prioritizing good sleep hygiene practices, such as maintaining a regular sleep schedule, creating a comfortable sleep environment, and managing stress, can help promote healthy deep sleep.

 

 

[Phil]

3 hours ago, Orb said:

Just occurred to me that Love is fucking perfect! Like just awesome. 

You really, really are. Emphasis on already. 🙂 
 

3 hours ago, Orb said:

Is deep sleep actually complete wakefulness? 

You are complete wakefulness appearing as the thought(s) that there’s sleep, complete wakefulness (and maybe a thought about there being an “incomplete wakefulness”.) Sleep is only conceptual, assumed, never actually experienced, because you never experience you. It’s an arising ‘explanation’ which is essentially a ‘write off’, or overlooking of that-you-are-appearing. Infinite can neither know finite nor infinite, yet can appear as an experience of ‘knowing’. 

 

3 hours ago, Orb said:

When Love isn't appearing as the spheres would you say it's like deep sleep where there's no one to be conscious or anything at all, not even the concept of nothingness? 

‘When’ (time) doesn’t apply to and isn’t experienced by consciousness. It’s exactly like deep sleep in that it’s a thought. When it’s assumed “I sleep” even though sleep is never experienced, it’s likewise assumed I’m conscious though “that one which is conscious” is never actually experienced, again, because only consciousness is conscious and consciousness being infinite, can not experience itself. It can only overlook that experience is already itself, appearing. 

 

3 hours ago, Orb said:

Upon self-realizing, are you in a permanent deep sleep, yet still capable of being conscious? (Being conscious meaning: thought arises)

Likewise there is no one capable, and no one incapable. Period. Full stop. 

(… of being conscious.) 

Conscious=Consciousness. 

[Alexander]

Word salad refers to a phenomenon where a person's speech or writing lacks coherence and meaning, resembling a mixture of random words and phrases that do not form coherent sentences or convey a clear message. It is often associated with certain psychiatric or neurological conditions, such as schizophrenia or severe forms of dementia.

 

In word salad, the individual may produce a jumble of words, phrases, and ideas that seem unrelated or nonsensical. The language used may be grammatically incorrect, contain neologisms (newly coined words), or include words used in unconventional ways. It can be challenging to follow or understand the person's intended message due to the lack of logical structure or coherence in their communication.

 

Word salad can be distressing for both the person experiencing it and those trying to communicate with them. It can hinder effective communication and make it difficult to engage in meaningful conversations. It is important to note that word salad is a symptom rather than a condition itself and often indicates an underlying cognitive or mental health issue.

 

If you encounter someone exhibiting word salad, it is crucial to approach the situation with empathy and understanding. Communication techniques such as active listening, asking clarifying questions, and providing a supportive environment can help establish a better connection and potentially improve the clarity of their communication. Additionally, seeking professional help from a healthcare provider or mental health specialist is essential for diagnosis and appropriate management of any underlying condition causing word sala

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[Mandy]

word sala

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Nice touch. 

[Orb]

19 minutes ago, Alexander said:

Word salad refers to a phenomenon where a person's speech or writing lacks coherence and meaning, resembling a mixture of random words and phrases that do not form coherent sentences or convey a clear message. It is often associated with certain psychiatric or neurological conditions, such as schizophrenia or severe forms of dementia.

 

In word salad, the individual may produce a jumble of words, phrases, and ideas that seem unrelated or nonsensical. The language used may be grammatically incorrect, contain neologisms (newly coined words), or include words used in unconventional ways. It can be challenging to follow or understand the person's intended message due to the lack of logical structure or coherence in their communication.

 

Word salad can be distressing for both the person experiencing it and those trying to communicate with them. It can hinder effective communication and make it difficult to engage in meaningful conversations. It is important to note that word salad is a symptom rather than a condition itself and often indicates an underlying cognitive or mental health issue.

 

If you encounter someone exhibiting word salad, it is crucial to approach the situation with empathy and understanding. Communication techniques such as active listening, asking clarifying questions, and providing a supportive environment can help establish a better connection and potentially improve the clarity of their communication. Additionally, seeking professional help from a healthcare provider or mental health specialist is essential for diagnosis and appropriate management of any underlying condition causing word sala

d.

 

 

 

 

Not sure what's being implied? You think I'm schizophrenic? Lol

 

Well, I am definitely losing my mind, just not in the conventional sense 😅.

[Orb]

@Phil so essentially I'll just keep going deeper and be-ing more than talking!

[James123]

5 hours ago, Orb said:

 

Is deep sleep actually complete wakefulness? 

Yes. 

[Orb]

36 minutes ago, James123 said:

Yes. 

🙌🙌

 

I love how paradoxical it seems through thought. 

 

I was watching a video where a friend of Nisargaddata (spiritual teacher) was with him for a few minutes and Nisargaddata was silent for some time. After a few minutes he turned to him and said he had literally disappeared and had no memory of what occurred in the last few minutes. That's the kinda deep sleep I'm talking about. 

Edited June 6, 2023 by Orb

[James123]

1 minute ago, Orb said:

🙌🙌

 

I love how paradoxical it seems through thought. 

Now, before, after all is deep sleep, just being. Therefore, realization of now You are just being (sleeping), is waking up from the dream. Because, now you are dreaming meanwhile as always sleeping. 

[Phil]

On 6/6/2023 at 1:54 PM, Orb said:

You think I'm schizophrenic?

@Alexander

As you haven’t responded, I’m wondering too. He’s asking questions and having convo’s, that’s what the forum is for. It’s not for accusations without response when questioned. Much more for questioning. It’s also not for posting GPT-4, as we all already have access as well. If you have questions as always feel free. 

[Phil]

Memories, or, remnants of having had a dream ‘while sleeping’, are based on a hindsight assumption on behalf of a separate self in time; ‘I slept’, before ‘I awoke’. Yet sleep was not actually, directly, experienced.

 

These so called memories appear now only. In truth, nighttime dreams are a playing out, a reconciliation of the separate self of thought, with the true infinite nondual self, which being nondual is ever-lasting wakefulness.

 

The ‘mystery’ of sleep resolves only in that you are right now - asleep, and dreaming. The ‘nighttime dream’ is not dreaming at all, and the believing that it is only serves to bring a richness & fullness to This, the true dreaming.

 

As is always the case, all is revealed by the inspection & exploration of direct experience. You never actually experience sleep. There is but an apparent experience of others sleeping, and more truly bodies at rest. This, you internalize, and assume that you - sleep. As well, that you were born, are alive rather than eternal aliveness, and will one day die.

 

But never has there been a direct experience of death or sleep, upon which these assumptions are compounded, by the nondual infinite dreamer.

How enticing it is to now believe in states, such as states of consciousness. This too lends a profound lavishness of reality to your dreaming. Yet, absent of this illusory lux, The Truth lies bare, readily & plainly exposed.

 

All is revealed as the grand theater of your sole dreaming. The curtain-less-curtain rises and falls. The actors, the stage and the applause; you sit as always, in the front row, breaking your heart open again and again in your unfathomable stillness and unwavering perfection.