Die while you're alive

[Eternal]

Die while you’re alive  and be absolutely dead. Then do whatever you want:  it’s all good.

 

[Phil]

The separate self, also referred to as the ego, or individual, is illusory. The nature of illusion is what seems to be already isn’t. There is no separate self which is alive (“while you’re alive”) and could die (“be absolutely dead”), which could “then” do whatever it wants.

 

What is is already complete, whole, absolutely free and without separation. 

[Eternal]

Multiple ways of comunicating something you can't really.

 

I remember eckhart saying in his books, one of his quotes was, die before you die to realize there is no such thing as death. And then Phil comes along saying that is more stories for the seperate self 🤦‍♂️

 

Bloody english language and it's dualistic nature! 

[Phil]

…to realize there is no such thing as death… isn’t quite the same as …then do whatever you want. 

[Eternal]

1 hour ago, Phil said:

…to realize there is no such thing as death… isn’t quite the same as …then do whatever you want. 

There is no 'you' to die though..

[Phil]

1 minute ago, Eternal said:

There is no 'you' to die though..

Yeah. There’s no ‘you’re alive’ which ‘dies’ and ‘be’s absolutely dead’. Apparently this kind of verbiage can seem to imply there is ‘the relative’ and ‘the absolute’, and people get the wrong idea about liberation and commit suicide believing then they will be able to be free and do whatever they want. 

 

[Eternal]

9 hours ago, Phil said:

Yeah. There’s no ‘you’re alive’ which ‘dies’ and ‘be’s absolutely dead’. Apparently this kind of verbiage can seem to imply there is ‘the relative’ and ‘the absolute’, and people get the wrong idea about liberation and commit suicide believing then they will be able to be free and do whatever they want. 

 

Why do a lot of spiritual teachers use that kind of verbiage then? Would you say it does more harm than good? You kept on telling me your own way of communicating but I still believed my thoughts. So do many other's I assume, wouldn't you say both ways of communicating are valid and ultimately just pointers to something that is beyond the mind. 

 

The false-self tries to comprehend anything with the level of the mind, whatever is said it

Edited March 8, 2023 by Eternal

[Phil]

11 hours ago, Eternal said:

Why do a lot of spiritual teachers use that kind of verbiage then? Would you say it does more harm than good?

If spirituality is the inspection of what is absolutely true, there isn’t anything to teach, as in anything to add. 

 

11 hours ago, Eternal said:

You kept on telling me your own way of communicating but I still believed my thoughts. So do many other's I assume, wouldn't you say both ways of communicating are valid and ultimately just pointers to something that is beyond the mind. 

‘Beyond’ ‘the mind’ is a good example of what can be inspected. 

 

11 hours ago, Eternal said:

 

The false-self tries to comprehend anything with the level of the mind, whatever is said it

Like a unicorn trying to think. 

[Eternal]

Why don't most inspect then? 

 

You encourage them to inspect but yet they still don't. Why is that? 

 

Why don't most feel unconditional love, it is there underneath everything but not typically experienced. 

[Phil]

There isn’t a most. 

[Eternal]

Does that mean my parents never gave birth to me, wait... does that mean my parents have been lying to me.. 

[Phil]

What’s the assumption free direct experience? 

[Eternal]

17 hours ago, Phil said:

What’s the assumption free direct experience? 

There is a thought about so and so but it's just a thought. I'm whole and complete. Love is the absence of other's.

[ConsciousDreamer666]

On 3/8/2023 at 9:47 PM, Eternal said:

Does that mean my parents never gave birth to me, wait... does that mean my parents have been lying to me.. 

You are literally your parents. It's all your mind. I am inside 'it'. I am you. 😝

[solereproduction]

On 3/7/2023 at 1:09 PM, Eternal said:

Die while you’re alive  and be absolutely dead. Then do whatever you want:  it’s all good.

 

Is this a joke?   Nevermind, I read through the posts after the OP, and see who you are playing with.

[almond]

 

live as if you didn't exist a minute ago .

 

so now you're here, and reading this..

wow 

 

[Joseph Maynor]

Live while you're alive.  I understand people want to be/appear deep for various reasons, but we also want to have common sense too.  If you die, you ain't doing nothin'.  How many people do you know personally who've died like for real?  I assume most people on here are young people.  Young people can afford to make light of death and turn it into some kind of philosophical diatribe or classroom discussion.  I gotta go a video on this topic, this is a good topic where there’s some paradox. 

Edited March 21, 2023 by Joseph Maynor

[Phil]

@Joseph Maynor

Sounds like a great video. Maybe explain Schrodinger’s cat in it.