Is the end of suffering the only authentic motive?

[Blessed2]

It seems to me like it is. I cannot imagine how anyone could be authentically seeking truth "just for the sake of truth itself".

 

That sounds off to me. Though I've heard people say that. Jed McKenna comes to mind. He says seeking 'peace of mind' is just egos nonsense, and the only true path is to seek truth just for the sake of truth. I think that's bullshit. And manipulative. Cause of course you're seeking for truth cause you think that's gonna be some sort of completion, a resolution, or Peace?

 

Brings in mind certain someone else who talks about "understanding for the sake of understanding". Gives me the same manipulative vibe. I think that's a way to try to seem like 'purer than thou', cause anyone hearing that will automatically be like "whaaat how could I ever have a pure intention like that? I just want to feel better. He must be less biased than I am." etc.

 

I dunno, somehow lately as the fact that I'm in fact not feeling great has come more and more clear and allowed to surface, and as the sort of message or calling to have it corrected is heard / felt, it just seems to me like denying the path of the Buddha makes less and less sense.

 

 

Edited November 25, 2022 by Blessed2

[Phil]

13 hours ago, Blessed2 said:

Is the end of suffering the only authentic motive?

What’s motive?

 

13 hours ago, Blessed2 said:

It seems to me like it is. I cannot imagine how anyone could be authentically seeking truth "just for the sake of truth itself".

What’s The Truth?

 

13 hours ago, Blessed2 said:

 

That sounds off to me. Though I've heard people say that. Jed McKenna comes to mind. He says seeking 'peace of mind' is just egos nonsense, and the only true path is to seek truth just for the sake of truth. I think that's bullshit. And manipulative. Cause of course you're seeking for truth cause you think that's gonna be some sort of completion, a resolution, or Peace?

What’s a thinker?

 

13 hours ago, Blessed2 said:

 

Brings in mind certain someone else who talks about "understanding for the sake of understanding". Gives me the same manipulative vibe. I think that's a way to try to seem like 'purer than thou', cause anyone hearing that will automatically be like "whaaat how could I ever have a pure intention like that? I just want to feel better. He must be less biased than I am." etc.

What’s understanding?

 

13 hours ago, Blessed2 said:

 

I dunno, somehow lately as the fact that I'm in fact not feeling great has come more and more clear and allowed to surface, and as the sort of message or calling to have it corrected is heard / felt, it just seems to me like denying the path of the Buddha makes less and less sense.

 

 

What’s The Buddha?

[James123]

19 hours ago, Blessed2 said:

It seems to me like it is. I cannot imagine how anyone could be authentically seeking truth "just for the sake of truth itself".

 

That sounds off to me. Though I've heard people say that. Jed McKenna comes to mind. He says seeking 'peace of mind' is just egos nonsense, and the only true path is to seek truth just for the sake of truth. I think that's bullshit. And manipulative. Cause of course you're seeking for truth cause you think that's gonna be some sort of completion, a resolution, or Peace?

 

Brings in mind certain someone else who talks about "understanding for the sake of understanding". Gives me the same manipulative vibe. I think that's a way to try to seem like 'purer than thou', cause anyone hearing that will automatically be like "whaaat how could I ever have a pure intention like that? I just want to feel better. He must be less biased than I am." etc.

 

I dunno, somehow lately as the fact that I'm in fact not feeling great has come more and more clear and allowed to surface, and as the sort of message or calling to have it corrected is heard / felt, it just seems to me like denying the path of the Buddha makes less and less sense.

 

 

Now is the bliss, love and freedom. you are the only one who stands against to it. I can not be free, I must be dropped, freedom, bliss and love already now, here. 

 

Many people misunderstanding is trying to be happy with the identification, completely wrong. When idenficiation ends, you realize you are the happiness. There is no separate you to feel happy or freedom. You are the happiness and freedom.

Edited November 25, 2022 by James123