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1 minute ago, Orb said:
@God idk what youre talking about lol.
His name is Robed Mystic. It's a joke.
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3 minutes ago, Orb said:
@Robed Mystic so you start of saying you discovered profound truths (plural) then you say this is a profound realization (singular).
You're acting enlightened, stop it at once! Why can't you just admit, we've all fallen into that trap, embarrassing but humbling.
You make your truths plural to convince others that enlightenment is about discovering multiple things only confusing them more, then in order to self aggrandize you say you've discovered THE profound truth.
You see the confusion you're stirring up? Poor leo "I see the good in you Leo, you were once a Jedi 😔".
I wouldn't worry about what is profound, I'd focus on taking responsibility for the confusion you're stirring up in people.
Are you really trying to rob the poor man of his mysticism again?
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8 hours ago, WhiteOwl said:
Mate... You are spending a lot of time discussing with someone on the internet named "God", who it's very obvious you wont change. Just .. leave it? Is it in anyway contributing? If you really are that eager to argue, just start a pm thread maybe and you can knock yourself out. Its really not interesting for anyone else, it looks to me at least
ikr..
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9 hours ago, Iesu said:
Also who's ego lol you literally said become the devil as if their is some separate entity called the "devil".
Dog we are here to support you but please for my sake and others leave the devil talk at the door
A devil is someone who engages in devilry.
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14 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:
I wouldn't expect you to. You're supposed to be "completely omniscient" though.
Did I say that? Don't project your insecurities onto me.
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1 hour ago, Iesu said:
If there is no self how can one be afraid?
Exactly. No self = no devilry.
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Just now, Joseph Maynor said:
It's kinda shaming as well to call someone a devil. It's using shame for whatever reason or motive. This will be my last comment in this thread. I think it's good to make people feel good and encouraged as a teacher in my judgment. That's what works for me when I teach myself and others. It's about encouragement and getting someone to value a change even if it takes them a long time for things to circle around and they achieve it.
I don't get your point
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6 minutes ago, Faith said:
That's not exactly true. You can awaken to Self-realization and then realize you aren't this mind/body you thought you were, so the whole thing is a moot point, because I'm awareness, not this "apparent" person Im associated with a world.
By brain/mind I of course meant the mind that is within consciousness. Physical reality, including a physical brain, doesn't have a reason to actually exist.
9 minutes ago, Faith said:Yes, experience happens in the brain. That's a scientific fact, but it doesn't mean what you're experiencing is "only" in the mind, which is what solipsismis suggesting. That's two different issues.
So if not within the mind that's within your consciousness, how else can you experience something?
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Just now, Faith said:
What do you mean? Please be specific, so I understand what you're referring to.
The reason I bring up ideas from solipsism is because people often fail to realize that anything outside your direct experience can only ever be an assumption. You can only ever experience your own brain/mind, and its interpretations of signals from your senses. You can't experience anything that's not your brain.
But then, because the only reality you've ever known is your brain, then would there even be a need for an outside world? It's not like you can check if the world exists. You can't leave you brain and have a look around. Therefore, there's no reason to assume there is an outside physical world, or physical people. Your world is just signals/data.
Does a rock have consciousness? Does a human you see have consciousness? Is there a difference between them?
How do your beliefs view all this?
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29 minutes ago, Faith said:
You would call it Isvara (or Ishvara) in Advaita Vedanta which is the supreme Self/God.
Again, it's not solipsism. There's no need for the term solipsism if you are speaking about Isvara, because Isvara is saguna Brahman aka the absolute with qualities. Which already encompasses every-thing subtle and gross in all the universe.
Okay, well.. does it make any assumptions about the outside world/people?
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10 minutes ago, Faith said:
Again, you are either playing games or your mistaken. The definition of solipsism is referring to "self" (small "s") the ego-mind, not the "Self" (capital "S") brahman/god.
So, which are you talking about? If you're talking about God, like you said you were a moment ago, then that is NOT solipsism.
And, if your talking about the small self/ego. That would be solipsism, but is just BS for so many reasons.
What would you call solipsism with a big S then? There is no name. They're both solipsism, just different interpretations.
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1 minute ago, Faith said:
So, thanks, you've made it even more clear that you don't know what solipsism actually means, therefore no need to continue the discussion. I don't mean to sound rude, but you need to clarify your terms before we could move forward discussing this, because Leoism's and Leo "versions" of twisting words don't apply on this forum.
Leo's version is the official version. Officially, there is no getting "cut off" from anything. It's just "your experience is all that can be known to exist without making assumption".
Sorry if I made you upset.
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10 minutes ago, Faith said:
No sir, that's not solipsism. Solipsism means there is only one ego/mind and this mind (person) is imagining all other things, including other minds (people).
You can not try to make solipsism into some "absolute" term, referring to God/Isvara, that would be altering its definition to suit your own agenda.
This would be a bastardization of solipsism with random assumptions which don't need to be there.
When I talk about solipsism, I'm talking about Leo's version of solipsism, which makes no assumptions.
Of course god didn't become human, and then imagined everything around him. Solipsism starts before the big bang. Before ego. Before everything. Consciousness is the source/beginning of everything. That's where everything happens. You never left consciousness. You're not in some physical place, you're in consciousness, and you're experiencing imaginary sensory data within that consciousness, and interpreting it as this world.
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14 minutes ago, Mandy said:
@God There's no "our".
solipsism (n.)
1871, coined from Latin solus "alone" (see sole (adj.)) + ipse "self." The view or theory that self is the only object of real knowledge or the only thing that is real. "The identification of one's self with the Absolute is not generally intended, but the denial of there being really anybody else" [Century Dictionary]. https://www.etymonline.com/word/solipsism
Solipsism asserts there is a self and it's cut off and "alone" from other. Ramana is saying there is Self, no self, just Self. No separation, no distinction.
Solipsism most certainly does not suggest there is any "cutting off" of anything from anything. This would go against the basic idea of solipsism that there is nothing outside you, and even if there were there's no reason so assume this as it can only ever be an assumption. Solipsism means basically.. "there is God, and God is experiencing itself". That's basically it. Anything on top of this would require evidence and explanation.
E.g. you might say there are souls and there's reincarnation, but then you'd have to come up with a complex explanation of theoretical spirit science, show evidence for this, explain how it's not just conjecture, and explain why it's a fundamental and absolutely necessary part of reality and why reality couldn't function any other way. Solipsism strips away these assumptions and relies only on what we know to be true.
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17 minutes ago, Faith said:
I prefer the traditional approach vs the solipsic non-traditional approach. Be my guest to take whatever approach works for you. I have no interest in the solipsism view or debating about it.
Just a short clip from Rupert "Solipsism is madness".
"From our own experience in the waking state, where we see that we just know one thing, we just know one experience. It's only thought that abstracts the multiplicity and diversity of objects"
So he's saying.. all we know for certain is our experience. Anything outside our experience is just a product of the mind, a belief/assumption.
He's basically just describing solipsism, which states that anything outside our experience can only ever be a belief/assumption.
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7 minutes ago, Blessed2 said:
@God 🤔
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And be sure to watch Leo's video on devilry. Many people, especially those religious, tend to have childish/naiive ideas about the topic.
You become a devil when you demonize / consider evil anything that's a threat to your ego. If you were 100% selfless, evil could not even exist, from your perspective. It's only when you are fearful and have something to defend that you can see anything as "evil". And through this act of demonization, you become the devil yourself.
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My best advice is.. psychedelics. If you're ready for them.
Change = death. Something has to die. Psychedelics are the fastest path to ego death. Even just partial ego death is fine.
Otherwise.. force yourself to meditate no matter how much you hate it. Your choice. You can choose to do nothing, but, if you do, all it means is the suffering has not gotten bad enough to warrant the pain of doing something different/scary. The suffering will just increase until the alternative starts to seem less painful in comparison.
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3 hours ago, Faith said:
At 5min he says eka jiva vada is radical solipsism.
This is not the standard teachings of Advaita Vedanta and he even says that in the video. I never heard of this solipsism stuff being anything until this all blew up on Actualized. It's rubbish as far as I'm concerned.
The man speaks the truth. It's all really common sense tbh if you think about it. You've never experienced anything outside your mind. You can't. The outside world is just a belief/assumption. Tell me if this doesn't make sense. I'm curious about what you don't agree with. I suspect you may just be oversimplifying his ideas and taking them the wrong way.
There are 2 main parts to solipsism. One is the above, simple and easy to explain. The other is some deep, confusing Turquoise-level stuff. But you first need to realize that your reality is brain-produced. iirc, the eyes actually see upside down, and the brain just flips it. Without the brain, the world is upside down😉
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3 hours ago, Annie said:
Leo, work on your approach with women, especially how you communicate. That's your "Fe" aka "extroverted feeling", and it needs improvement. I don't say that to judge, just as an observation. I would seriously consider professionalizing your approach on your forum. I have to work on my Fe, too, it's a part of life to have to learn to polish your approach. You're a perfectionist so you should already know this, that your approach with the forum has gone down a little, but you always needed some improvement with that. As a woman, I didn't always feel comfortable there.
Finally, someone speaking my language!
Poor INTPs. Leo's Fe is his trickster function, so it's a blindspot for him. I think this is actually what that Joseph guy was talking about yesterday, unknowingly. I do feel Leo's lack of Fe but, as I appreciate his Ti, I don't really care. I don't need Leo for emotional support. I just like talking to him Ti-to-Ti.
But I guess it's not surprising that some Fe doms would be upset by him and complain🤷♂️
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2 minutes ago, Phil said:
There are other more productive facets of this forum y’all. 🙂
Productive as in, contributes to bringing an end to suffering and simultaneously consciously creating the change you actually desire in your life.
This is one example…
Let's hope
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1 hour ago, Iesu said:
"become" god lmfao. Bro this is clearly trolling and you don't know what you're talking about. His point is that "you" don't have one.
Might I ask who exactly "becomes" god?
Come to the realization of God is what I meant.
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1 hour ago, Phil said:
Likewise sir, you have so so much to learn, as in yet to see. No one on this thread said they hate Leo. What is the source of that hate?
Sire, you have clearly not been paying attention, it seems. People here are calling him a "sexist pig", "narcissist", "scammer", etc. And it's all very one-sided.
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7 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:
Try to stick to a point, man.
So you dislike Leo because he said he'll tell you how to become God, you failed, and now you're angry as you realize that anyone can claim to be God or can claim to be able teach you to become God?
Who are you from Actualized.org
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You will never guess😉
Though I will say that Faith did ban me once🙂