WhiteOwl
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On 4/29/2024 at 8:26 PM, Mandy said:
Putting them aside or telling them "hit me with your best shot!"?
Then it doesn't suck to see her everyday.
I called them and said i'm out today. Big decision but it has been keeping me stuck for long enough now. And now the object shines once more.. very shiny, which just proves the point that its the right decision.
Time to recover and find out what i want now.
Tarot was pointing a lot towards that decision, so its interesting what happens now.
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5 minutes ago, Mandy said:
Putting them aside or telling them "hit me with your best shot!"?
Then it doesn't suck to see her everyday.
Haha guess thats what i try to prove sometimes 😕
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5 minutes ago, Mandy said:
@WhiteOwl Why would leaving have to be reactive? I don't know what you should do in that case and don't mean to suggest that you should leave, but if you did, why would it be anything else than that you wanted to focus on something else you're excited about?
Feels like a revenge act as they would not like it. But again i shouldn't be in it for them of course. I will consider it more deeply.
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3 minutes ago, Mandy said:
Why would leaving have to be reactive? I don't know and don't mean to suggest that you should, but if you did why would it be anything else than that you wanted to focus on something else you're excited about?
Because right before all this mixing pleasure and buisness it was a great thing and it could also be worthwhile for me putting the negative emotions from dealing with her aside.
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15 minutes ago, Mandy said:
Does it feel off to stay?
I also dont want to give her that importance of leaving or showing that Im angry etc
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Just now, Mandy said:
Does it feel off to stay?
it doesn't actually. Feels off to have contact with her all the time but i guess something can be done about that.
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12 minutes ago, Mandy said:
AAARRRRGHHHH! NOOO! More unworthiness. It was obvious that you wanted to go mess around with someone else.
You think there is something i don't see or that im not honest about? Why it ended. Very interested in hearing
12 minutes ago, Mandy said:Why not start your own music thing?
As a DJ you kind of are your own music thing, but its nice and fun to be in a label with people. And it was with my friend and this girl, and now its kinda messed up. Just feels off to leave it feeling angry or slightly resentful.
Also dont want to do that to my friend. He helped me a lot, and we can do some nice things together with this.
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46 minutes ago, Phil said:
Is it not possible for something to know what itself feels like? This explanation never resonated for some reason. I can know what I feel like seems logical to me, and doesnt need 2 me's
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11 minutes ago, Mandy said:
Were you 100% honest with the first why you left? If not, why not?
I maybe didn't see it as clearly as i do now that i was just projecting my own unworthiness, but we were always honest. It was obvious that i had too much shit going on to enjoy a more mature relation with someone like her. We talked about that in the end.
17 minutes ago, Mandy said:Observe how what is attracted is attracted, what foundation are you building on?
Foundation is actually completely different from having gone through all this last couple of month. Like actually. So the best would be to just be happy about that and move on from all this current crap.
18 minutes ago, Mandy said:Why do you have to communicate with her everyday?
We run a music thing together with the other guy also involved (my good friend). Which makes it a bit annoying.
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42 minutes ago, Phil said:
How many of you are there?
You’re implying there are two. One which knows what the other feels like.
I am unworthy?
i dont see it
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11 minutes ago, Phil said:
Yes.
But not to “me”.
To Me.
But I mean with this…
That’s about a person / situation.
… “and what I’m really thinkin beyond the scenes about myself is ____________”.
I feel unworthy. Guess thats it
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59 minutes ago, Mandy said:
@WhiteOwl If I want a loan to buy a house, I'm going to ask the bank, not a homeless person.
Just fucking angry right now. Angry that i fell for her tricks once again. You couldn't have described it better with her shining for a split second when needing validation. I walked right into it again.
I just dont want to make it a scene and say i would like to draw from our thing for a while even though thats what i feel like. Having to communicate with her everyday is just not nice at the moment.
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24 minutes ago, Phil said:
That still includes someone. So, more so, what’s the (discordant) self referential aspect?
That it feels discordant to "me"?
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50 minutes ago, Mandy said:
Find the real within yourself.
This was the question of the thread i guess. There is just so much movement and emotion going on. Is the best thing to do just watch it and wait for it to settle. Seems like nothing can be done
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2 minutes ago, Phil said:
What’s the self-referential discordant aspect?
"I cling to someone"?
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20 minutes ago, Mandy said:
Do you want peace or do you want the drama? If the drama isn't fun anymore, maybe it's not worth all this.
Its not worth all this at the moment. I was just kind of hoping for peace with the shiny object but that might seem to be impossible.
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Just now, Mandy said:
Why don't you call her, not to get back together but to heal things?
We did meet once and talked through and she let out a lot of emotion. Of course feeling hurt and angry for my way of ending things and being in the end.
You think i need to heal?
1 minute ago, Mandy said:who what where?
Just a matter of speech. Just that i haven't gotten the full message yet as there is so much inner turmoil and returning thought patterns and emotions
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@MandyI have a sense the universe is just spinning me around to show me what actually matters. And so much has changed in through all this but we are not there yet it seems.
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1 minute ago, Mandy said:
@WhiteOwl No, I mean where is she, how is she now?
I met her 2-3 weeks ago. She seems to be doing fine. She said she got a little nervous seeing me she said. I still think of her sometimes.
This new relationship just seems like a huge ego trip relative to the old, without that much substance actually. But so hard to let go of. Its crazy. I just found it to be mysterious and i feel a lot of a certain kind of attraction.
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2 minutes ago, Mandy said:
@WhiteOwl If you truly enjoyed being a body you'd realize you weren't.
Id realize i wasn't a body or i wasn't enjoying it?
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1 minute ago, Mandy said:
What happened to the girlfriend you broke up with before getting together with this one?
What happened before we broke up? Or in which sense
I didn't feel at ease in our relationship and thought she wasn't what i was looking for.
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6 minutes ago, Mandy said:
All springs from fear of suffering, resistance of suffering, which is the suffering.
Is the way out to become open and relaxed in the suffering? embracing it
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18 minutes ago, Blessed2 said:
You can't let you go.
If you could let all the clinging and attachment go, you would have already done that.
It's not in your power
I see that. Is there nothing to do but just feel through all the thoughts and emotions. Its exhausting.
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I feel shame and unworthiness or insecurity when thinking they have a good connection, or that he has a lot to offer. I feel shame and unworthiness thinking i don't have enough money. Putting music out still puts me in contact with feeling shame and unworthiness.
I feel jealousy when my friends have a lot of money. I feel anger that i went out on wednesday and got drunk and took cocaine.
I feel discouragement sometimes. When i feel i am in the same place, sort of stuck. Reason is obvious though. I feel blame for taking stupid choices. I blame myself for going out like that, and for not showing the integrity i want. Fantasizing about others, her especially, makes me feel worry.
I feel worry about things not working out, or that i might not be doing good enough. Like i' wasting my opportunity a little bit sometimes. I feel worry with thoughts about how the situation is going to work out with her and them.
I feel doubt in my ability to create sometimes. That what i want might not be possible for me. I feel doubt around my music. And blame and discouragement. Its like its really hard for me to believe and trust in my own abilities relative to music, even though i know i am creating my own reality.
I sometimes feel disappointment, when it seems things are not working out. I feel disappointment when it seems some people don't like my music.
I feel overwhelment sometimes feeling all this doubt and worry and disappointment.
I feel frustration and impatience because of not feeling in fucking alignment. Whenever i don't i just feel so much frustration and impatience.
Thought that i am not ready or feeling good enough to meet others. Feeling the guidance of insecurity.
I feel pessimism. About the bigger picture. Just feeling fucking pissed.
I feel boredom sometimes. I feel contentment now. I feel content for the loophole shake i am going to make soon, and for my friends who just wrote me.
I will continue to write after breakfast.