arjuna
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37 minutes ago, Loop said:
You can feel into the Heart and be with the thoughts you wanna feel, nobody around you will even know you are,
Crying is good, but I can understand if you feel like they won’t approve of it, that is pretty annoying. Comes from shame cycles. They can be uprooted by feeling into the body and aligning with good feeling thoughts of health & kindness, sending loving thoughts to you family and everyone else, you don’t necessarily have to say them to them just feel it out.
Lol, well good luck with all THAT.
Honestly, sounds like you dont have parents, or are one of the lucky few whos families are well adjusted.
This shit just isnt gonna work for most.
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"If you think youre enlightened, try spending a weekend with your parents"
Ram dass(i think?)
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9 hours ago, Phil said:
A book, videos, selling some houses, finding another cabin, recording some songs, and some remodeling to name a few.
Great thread!
So there is a "future"?
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12 hours ago, Omar Osama said:
I want to have more spiritual understanding of reality, I want to tap into whatever vibrational frequency I want complete control of my subconscious beliefs ( if you know a resource on that I would appreciate it).
I would recommend the work of phil hine.
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53 minutes ago, Phil said:
What’s the setup.
Who's on...first?
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37 minutes ago, Phil said:
Whats the punchline?
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On 12/16/2022 at 2:52 PM, Phil said:
Water can’t even be water.
What can water be?
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14 minutes ago, Loop said:
Both feet on the ground my friend. Read the start of the thread 🥰
Turn it inwards 😇 melt into the World.That curiously is a powerful force, but that there is a who who is curious is the veil.
Don’t take anyone’s word for it, listen, investigate for yourself.
‘Everything’ is the veil.There isn’t a single thing at all.
BURST INTO LOVE!
Love is,
Always.
As above so below, as within so without...
To look inward IS to look outward. So im always doing both.
Knowledge is recieved...consciousness is expanding, we are all moving the ball forward by moving our own balls forward. In the guise of "the self" we evolve the whole.
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3 minutes ago, Loop said:
Don’t agree with me, look!
Not with two eye’s but with the One Heart.
I’m not looking for anyone to agree or disagree with, I’m just expressing from the Heart of Being how ‘all’ of it is That.
Emptying might seem reductive, but it is really an embrace of your True Nature, as the thoughts about how things are this or that way fall away.
Sounds like youre more "bhakti" than me....im more on the "jnana" side of things. Im interested in how things are this or that way, i want to dig into it. Im here! Im curious! I dont need to "zen" about shit...i want to learn how all the parts work, what the mechanisms actually do, not just be happy hitching my wagon to some kind of new age "everything is everything" philosophy.
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10 minutes ago, Loop said:
I would suggest that is one thought, about a self who has possibilities. There is a lightning fast process that is hard to spot where one identifies with the thought stream. When there is really only one thought being felt at a time. This is what bring about attaching to a way of seeing things, you think you are the way you see things. When you are Free Awareness.The process of choosing is really just Feeling. Is there really a one in there you could say is making a choice?
The letting go of reactions is the embracing of Conscious Response.Is it truly so simple as this?
I'll agree with the last statement you made. To say a thought arises out of nowhere is just a little reductive, i would wager.
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18 minutes ago, Loop said:
There really isn’t anyone deciding anything,
Thoughts come out of nowhere and are felt.
So, in my "direct experience" i do decide, out of multiple possible reactions to a thought, which to react with.
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6 minutes ago, Loop said:
In direct experience i have multiple thoughts and the possibility to choose which to act on or express.
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5 minutes ago, Loop said:
There really isn’t anyone deciding anything,
Thoughts come out of nowhere and are felt.
Do they really come out of "nowhere"?
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13 minutes ago, Loop said:
I’m not saying there is some sense of self or mind that can never be triggered, I’m just saying triggers can be danced with and seen with Love.
I would agree they can be "danced with and seen with love"
That would have prompted an entirely different reaction. If you decide you have some reason to be defensive, you close yourself off in order to protect yourself. If you decide to dance with it, you dont have to be closed off or disturbed.
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10 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:
People mix up the Absolute and the relative, and and it's a big trap on the enlightenment path that even very wise teachers seem to never unravel out of. It's like a stubbornness to always reduce the relative to the Absolute. It comes up over and over again in discussion about enlightenment.The "relative" feels the need to defend itself, the "absolute" does not.
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7 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:
False. Bullying can trigger anyone. If I threatened anyone with deadly force they would be triggered. The idea that an enlightened person shouldn't get triggered is a bad idea. It depends on the context. This can also be used to gaslight people to accept being abused by teaching them that any kind of negative reaction is unspiritual. Sadhguru would fight anyone who threatened his life is there was an opportunity for him to do so I'll guarantee you. It's too obvious to even mention. It's called the will to survive.Nothing real can be threatened.
The infinite mind doesnt take anything personally...it doesnt have a personality.
Only the ego confuses emotional triggers with "deadly threats"
Nothing is in danger here, other than the ego.
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The "mind" of "no-mind"is the mind of limitations, so....
No-mind=no limits?
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Nothing can trigger the infinite mind. The infinite mind is imperturbable.
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2 hours ago, Phil said:
What am I going to say?
I knew you were gonna ask that
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10 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:
Whatever you're trying to communicate to me in this thread is toxic. You're totally attacking and trolling me throughout this thread. This is not what I want to engage in on here. I think I know who you are too. The usual suspect. I can't engage anymore with people I don't know who they are online. Enlightenment is not a test as to who's more unreactive to being bullied. I didn't realize you were bullying me until I went back and re-read your posts. I had someone else read them too who confirmed the same before I did and notified me. I thought I was talking with someone serious about enlightenment. Otherwise, I wouldn't have even bothered engaging with you.Ok joseph, ok... im sorry i upset you. I thought i was maybe talking with someone with a sense of humor about themselves, or "enlightenment", otherwise I wouldnt have bothered...
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Well, that was interesting...
Regarding the original question, i think "no mind" is a buddhist term? I think it has an entirely different meaning than "infinite mind"....my sense is the same word is being used to mean different concepts, sort of self talk in the first, and a sort of "mind of god" in the second. Is my take.
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57 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:
Great idea! Get over yourself. You're a troll. That's the best you can do for your life right now. I get it. Don't use me as a source of drama for your amusement. Now that I know what you do and I am advised accordingly. I assume I'm talking to real people on here who are serious about enlightenment in my posts, and I post honestly in that effort on here and elsewhere. If you want to vilify me, then that's really weird from my perspective. I'm not making any money posting on here or elsewhere. This is purely insights from my perspective. I'm not assuming you need this at all. I'm just trying to participate in an enlightenment community that I feel can contain me. I feel like I'm one perspective among many on here.*serious* about enlightenment.
Sounds like a bummer.
Are you only willing to "write your insights?" Or are you open and willing at all for exchange?
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7 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:
I'm logging off for now.
Good idea. But re read this interaction when you come back on, you may be surprised.
I hate my parents
in Emptying
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@Kevintheres always good old fashion therapy. You can talk with someone actually qualified....or you can get some spiritual platitudes from folks here.