arjuna

@Kevintheres always good old fashion therapy. You can talk with someone actually qualified....or you can get some spiritual platitudes from folks here.

Lol, well good luck with all THAT. Honestly, sounds like you dont have parents, or are one of the lucky few whos families are well adjusted. This shit just isnt gonna work for most.

"If you think youre enlightened, try spending a weekend with your parents" Ram dass(i think?)

So there is a "future"?

I would recommend the work of phil hine.

Who's on...first?

Whats the punchline?

What can water be?

As above so below, as within so without... To look inward IS to look outward. So im always doing both. Knowledge is recieved...consciousness is expanding, we are all moving the ball forward by moving our own balls forward. In the guise of "the self" we evolve the whole.

Sounds like youre more "bhakti" than me....im more on the "jnana" side of things. Im interested in how things are this or that way, i want to dig into it. Im here! Im curious! I dont need to "zen" about shit...i want to learn how all the parts work, what the mechanisms actually do, not just be happy hitching my wagon to some kind of new age "everything is everything" philosophy.

Is it truly so simple as this? I'll agree with the last statement you made. To say a thought arises out of nowhere is just a little reductive, i would wager.

So, in my "direct experience" i do decide, out of multiple possible reactions to a thought, which to react with.

In direct experience i have multiple thoughts and the possibility to choose which to act on or express.

Do they really come out of "nowhere"?

I would agree they can be "danced with and seen with love" That would have prompted an entirely different reaction. If you decide you have some reason to be defensive, you close yourself off in order to protect yourself. If you decide to dance with it, you dont have to be closed off or disturbed.

The "relative" feels the need to defend itself, the "absolute" does not.

Nothing real can be threatened. The infinite mind doesnt take anything personally...it doesnt have a personality. Only the ego confuses emotional triggers with "deadly threats" Nothing is in danger here, other than the ego.

The "mind" of "no-mind"is the mind of limitations, so.... No-mind=no limits?

Nothing can trigger the infinite mind. The infinite mind is imperturbable.

I knew you were gonna ask that

Ok joseph, ok... im sorry i upset you. I thought i was maybe talking with someone with a sense of humor about themselves, or "enlightenment", otherwise I wouldnt have bothered...

Well, that was interesting... Regarding the original question, i think "no mind" is a buddhist term? I think it has an entirely different meaning than "infinite mind"....my sense is the same word is being used to mean different concepts, sort of self talk in the first, and a sort of "mind of god" in the second. Is my take.

*serious* about enlightenment. Sounds like a bummer. Are you only willing to "write your insights?" Or are you open and willing at all for exchange?

Good idea. But re read this interaction when you come back on, you may be surprised.