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@Phil not calling you a scammer btw ..im talking about millionaires who make their cash with total new agey nonsense like chakras ..like that idiot called Sadhguru .

That's understandable .many Western people seeking modern versions of Hindu traditions (like Vedanta) and seek spirituality are at a vulnerable and low point in their lives.. and scammers(Indian gurus )take advantage of that.

I'm aware of that . Not a fool to go there with empty wallet. I need to make some money first . I know There is no quick and easy way. I must man up and get a better salary job and work my way up. The people who just want shortcuts or want to chest the system always stay poor and never make it. It’s only a few that actually get away with it and many of those people end up in jail 🤣

That's perfect. You took it right from my mouth . I do actually invision myself travelling through the US ..but also European cities like London and Paris . There is no question about it that these countries have a better life than third world countries like India. And in all domains . So yeah I'm bitter and anguished that I'm stuck in a shitty society. I do want to move to a first world country. And that's definitely can make me happier than I'm right now. So I don't see anything wrong with your statement.

@Robed Mystic Gura's forum is up again . Good news .

@Mandy 😂 what should the title be ? Is "I want my damn green card asap" on the money ?

It's easy to say this when you live in America 😉

Haha seriously..you showing an inkle of concern about Leo after his betrayal of you which was really sad is a sign of how God like you are . Even when interacting with you on the forum ..you are patient..you try as you can to address al the questions etc..and even when someone shows slight disrespect you warn them gently and I can go on ..

@Phil you are a good person ,sir .

Would you rather live In this world with all its ugliness that you at least can know and handle or jump into the unknown by suicide? I was suicidal few years ago ..I can tell ya ...thinking about suicide happens when the person feels that the suffering of this world is even worse than death and worthy of taking the risk of jumping into the unknown.

Brilliant. Thanks 🙏

@Phil I'm asking sincerely. i really don't to waste your time ..no need to open endless branches for this discussion ..otherwise it won't go anywhere as always lol I just want to understand something: Why I believe my current situation in life is not good enough and why l believe if I achieved X ,Y or Z that my life will finally become fulfilling? I understand that this is a trap and it's never gonna work (hedonic adaption )..but I'm asking why I believe this?

I'm identified as the physical body . Because I'm not awake to dissociate from the body and identify as consciousness which therein appears the body ..the brain ..the gym..the I-thought etc... So there is an experience of the body . I never cracked my skull and saw my brain 😂..so you are right there is no actual experience of brain or parts of the brain..but that's just for communication purposes..If we pay attention to every single word being said and disect them into thoughts VS. Perception..we really can't talk at all . So I understand your point ..but I hope you as well understand mine . You are just repeating it .that's what my question was about .you told that guy(or girl) this and I asked you how is that true ? How is it possible?

He has enough money from Patreon donations so he decided to take a stroll down the beach and vacation his ass out .

Could you expand on this ? Why I believe that some future experience will make me happy and never satisfied with just what's present ? I know this but i cant apply it in my life . And yet..while the logical part of my brain knows these things..the emotional part of my brain is still wired in the old ways. When I go gym and lift weights.. it isn't to enjoy the process .. its to get a marvel physique etc...

Oh no man this is really not nice .

OK. Typical Phill response. 🙂 I once awakened in a dream .it was very vivid I was totally immersed in it ..but I became lucid and I woke up thinking there is no real difference between dreams and reality . Its all a dream. Ta-da !!

I'd like to . Expand on this please .

Amazing

@Phil I dont remember you talking about your "first" (orginal..or breakthrough ..or seeing the tail of the Ox ) awakening experience..do you mind sharing ? Like where did these insights were revealed to you ?How did you discover these things ? @Jane since when did ANYTHING made any sense ? 😉

@Phil OK thank you . I disagree but whatever.

Haha you are right . Just to be clear ..no ill feelings towards you brother. I like you . Have a nice day.

How so ? I'm not a millionaire. That's what's already the case in my life financially. So if I choose to consciously create money and prosperity I have to be a separate self who is the thinker and doer of thoughts and deeds and actively work towards my goal . Do we have free will or not? Just get practical for once . You can ditch everything that is being asked as "concepts of the frickin separate self of thought "..but trust me it doesn't work like that. Phil...look..you are really stuck on this.. I'm not some dumb idiot wall that can’t comprehend what you are saying. .I don't need to be told I'm not a person over and over again. Yes...I get there is no separation. But hey “people” still commit suicide in this infinite pool of bliss because they don’t know they’re in it. But that doesn't compute because when shit hits the fan you become a person. If I'm not a separate self...then that's a licence to do evil ..or to insult you right now (this is just an example). because the cold hard fact of there not being a separate self relieves me of any semblance of responsibility for what stupid shit is leaving my mouths @James123 arguing with you is pointless .

Another hopeless attempt to encapsulate what enlightenment is . Its not this nor that. Its both and neither . "Love means I'm everything. Wisdom means I'm nothing. Between these two my life swings. " -Nisargadatta Maharaj How is awakening singular when what you can awaken to is infinite ? An absolute truth in an infinite reality?! Do you see anything not adding up here ? You can become awake that you are God. But that's not the only awakening to be had .you can also become awake of why the sky appears blue or why worms exist. You can literally become awake about every single object in existence 😂.

I'm not downgrading neither Phil nor Leo . Both are "real mystics ". There is no question about it if you watch their videos and read them. I was merely pointing out that they both think they've got all finished and figured out .which is a paradigm-lock and delusion. Since reality is infinite ..you can never figure it out completely.