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MetaSage
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Telling the truth and contemplating organically throughout the day, usually who am I?
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Messi-Neymar-Suárez.
😛
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Depends on which individuals, settings and activities we are talking about. Sex might be secondary here.
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I mean, death is the ultimate way of loosing, and losing, so we're fucked (and blessed) either way. 😄
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Good practice. Even more challenging to bring it to every aspect of life, everything you do, feel and think.
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To hear an explanation and to be convinced of it won't cut it.
It's something unknown that you must personally contemplate.
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You don't fear success. You fear being successful and screwing it up. Clarify your fear. You want success.
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On 8/7/2023 at 6:31 PM, Phil said:
Thanks for the clarification. I’m not suggesting happiness and unhappiness come & go, only that unhappiness comes & goes (and unhappiness always has a reason).
Interpretation (the reason) is prior to (what’s referred to as) the objective world. This is irreversible, and / but is already perfection. It’s how creation is created / happening / is the creator. There’s a lengthy explanation & spherical illustration on this (interpretation) in one of the last two Zoom videos posted on YouTube if interested.
It’s not that happiness is impersonal, it’s that happiness is appearing as the thought ‘people’, and the thoughts personal & impersonal. Another way to put it, happiness is infinite, which just means no finite, so there is not really people, personal & impersonal, there is / are apparently the thoughts that there are these separate things.
Happiness, being infinite, is neither personal or impersonal, but just is - happiness. Similarly, given certain thoughts, the emotion of hatred comes & goes, while love never comes and never goes.
Another approach is noticing that while experience (thought & perception) appears to change such as a new car, a new house, a new relationship etc… it is always the very same happiness / love. The happiness / love (that which the words point to) never changes and is never changed. This is what was meant by happiness being mentally projected into results and outcomes (experience). Happiness / love is never really / actually mentally projected… the projection / believing just makes it seem so. Then it actually seems like happiness is coming from a car, house, relationship / other, etc, etc (experience).
It might also be clarifying (idk) to point out / consider there’s very literally no one here typing or saying anything. So there isn’t the ‘self’ / ‘you’ which anything could actually be attached to or which could detach from anything. Therein unhappiness isn’t something caused by a ‘self’ / ‘you’, and unhappiness has no source, but is just a word pointing communicatively to how some thoughts feel. Not how a you feels, how some thoughts feel. There can certainly be the thought ‘I’m unhappy’, but there is never the ‘self’ that thought is about.
The ‘you’ (separate self of thought) is a thought, as is responsibility, generating and or purpose. Happiness is appearing as these thoughts / this narrative about there being a separate-of-happiness ‘self’. Only the word / belief ‘purpose’ is “needed” for the overlooking of happiness / infinite / truth / love. What is infinite is inherently free of purpose, as that would require something else, something finite. Infinite just means no finite, like nonduality just means not two.
I need to look into this.
Translated it into Spanish but still... 😛
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@Phil thank "you" 😉
I might be wrong about the "med-" part, I heard it somewhere.
meditation (n.)
c. 1200, meditacioun, "contemplation; devout preoccupation; private devotions, prayer," from Old French meditacion "thought, reflection, study," and directly from Latin meditationem (nominative meditatio) "a thinking over, meditation," noun of action from past-participle stem of meditari "to meditate, think over, reflect, consider," from a frequentative form of PIE root *med- "take appropriate measures." Meaning "meditative discourse on a subject" is early 14c.; meaning "act of meditating, continuous calm thought upon some subject" is from late 14c. The Latin verb also had stronger senses: "plan, devise, practice, rehearse, study."
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3 hours ago, Phil said:
By ‘them’ do you mean happiness & unhappiness?
yes
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14 hours ago, MetaSage said:
Correct me if I'm wrong.
You're talking of happiness and unhappiness as if they were impersonal, detached from you, as if the source of responsibility for experiencing either one of them lied outside one's self.
My claim is that unhappiness is caused by you. And yes, it serves a purpose. Happiness may result when being completely engaged in the moment with whatever one is experiencing, no matter what it is. On the other hand, resisting experience causes misery.
Pretty much nobody knows what happiness is. Good question to ponder.
Either you're being cute or the way you talked about them ("comes & goes") sounds like an "impersonal" affair. As if one didn't have a say in the matter. I wanted to point out that responsibility in the matter is key. They don't come and go but they're generated by you.
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On 8/3/2023 at 5:46 PM, Phil said:
It doesn’t typically seem to be noticed that unhappiness comes & goes and always has a reason while happiness never actually comes or goes but seems to be mentally projected onto results and outcomes.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
You're talking of happiness and unhappiness as if they were impersonal, detached from you, as if the source of responsibility for experiencing either one of them lied outside one's self.
My claim is that unhappiness is caused by you. And yes, it serves a purpose. Happiness may result when being completely engaged in the moment with whatever one is experiencing, no matter what it is. On the other hand, resisting experience causes misery.
Pretty much nobody knows what happiness is. Good question to ponder.
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You, of course.
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I make a distinction between meditation and contemplation.
Meditation, at its root, comes from the latin "med-", meaning to heal. It is calming, controlling, mastering the mind. It is aimed at things such as relaxing, healing, increasing vitality, letting chi (life energy) flow throughout the body, etc.
Contemplation is setting out to experience what's true about a given subject. Zazen would be an example of this. It is done with the intent to achieve satori or kensho (first glimpse). It can be done in any environment and doesn't need a formal posture, routine or worldview to accommodate to it.
What would you say to this?
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22 hours ago, Someone here said:
That's not what I meant .
You said we don't know anything...isnt that a contradiction? Because you know that you don't know .
I don't know, ask Socrates. 😛
A recognition of one's ignorance. It's a different knowing. It's the human condition.
Why would it have to be logical? It isn't hard to notice it, despite the apparent contradiction. It gets to your bones and marrow. 😉
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On 6/14/2023 at 1:25 PM, Someone here said:
Do you realize the paradox here ?
Still true.
Plain fact that we're ignorant about fundamental stuff. WE're not conscious of what we are, what emotions are, what perception is, what existence is, what another is, what communication is, what sentience is, what an object is. We pretend to know and are in denial of the fact. We gather up assumptions and make up stories but they don't change the ignorance, they add on top of it.
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We know pretty much nothing. We're ignorant. Vastly so. 😉
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okay thanks
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maybe in the future
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Blueberries and fasting! https://nutritionfacts.org/?s=fasting
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I see meditation as directed towards healing and setting out to change your state, basically. It increases focus and helps control one's mind. This has many benefits but its purpose isn't questioning with the intent to discover the truth of something, that'd be contemplation.
How could it be practiced day to day without having to sit down or adopt a certain posture?
To clarify, meditating is incredibly beneficial and everyone would greatly benefit from it!
My distracted mind is struggling with making meditation a daily habit although today I meditated for 15 minutes.
What do you say to people who worry about not knowing how to do meditation? Is there a technique that can be followed?
What I do turns out to be "doing nothing", breath awareness, maybe zazen, although I'm not very clear on what the latter is about.
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Apart from the necessary physiological and lifestyle advice, which must be done in order to benefit from them, not just thought about (quality sleep and rest, whole-food and plant-based diet, 1 hour daily of moderately-intense exercise, daily meditation and mindfulness, listening to relaxing music, etc.), I'd recommend you try out practices/challenges. Experiment with intermittent fasting, cold showers, semen retention, remove a category of unhealthy foods, like processed sugar, for 30 days or so. See how you feel after a month with each of these practices. Pay attention to what works and what makes you feel tired. Ultimately one's disposition and commitment triumphs over what the body is feeling. Therefore, try simply "willing" your way out of tiredness.
Contemplate principles such as relaxing and being calm. Fully intend on experiencing those principles at all levels, as deep as you can, and then deeper. Ask yourself: How can I be in my body in the most effortless but effective way?
When I was a teenager, almost every day after school I'd get home exhausted. With some rest, I'd quickly go play soccer for 2 hours, do my homework, and played some video games, apart from walking my dog.
So basically experiment with some of the things above and keep what works for you.
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On 3/31/2023 at 5:39 PM, Aware Wolf said:
3) Satipathanna. This was described by the Buddha, the Maestro of Meditation, as a direct path to liberation. See Bhikkhu Analayo's trilogy of books on the Satipathanna and his guided meditations on YouTube.
Nice. That guy Gotama knew a thing or two!
Are you full of BS?
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Pretty much, yeah.