Orb Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Part of suffering is the separate self using sensations for pleasure, basically always seeking to feel better because that's all it knows to do, literally.  But then at the same time theres the whole "follow what feels good" thing in LoA.  whats going on here? 😬 Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 What's a dicotomy? Quote Mention  Youtube Channel  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted October 25, 2022 Author Share Posted October 25, 2022 @Mandy I read online that it's 2 things that contradict each other. Â @Devin I like alignment too better than good or better. Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." -Â A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, Orb said: @Mandy I read online that it's 2 things that contradict each other.  @Devin Beware any word that starts with "di". What does nonduality mean again? Quote Mention  Youtube Channel  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted October 25, 2022 Author Share Posted October 25, 2022 @Mandy not two.  But that still doesn't resolve the contradiction going on. Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 @Orb How many things are needed to have a contradiction? You're trying to understand with the mind, to have a rule to follow, to know which the "right" way is in exclusion of the wrong way. No one wins that game. Quote Mention  Youtube Channel  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 16 hours ago, Orb said: Part of suffering is the separate self using sensations for pleasure, basically always seeking to feel better because that's all it knows to do, literally. The separate self is the activity of, content of, believing of thoughts. There isn’t an actual second or separate entity, which is seeking, using, knowing or doing. Via believing thoughts, awareness believes it is a part, a finite object, because the implied content of thought can only be that of separate finite objects.  Seeking is meditative & investigative, vs the believing of thoughts. Meditatively, awareness is ‘found’ to be the very activity of thought, and therein never the implied content of thoughts, because awareness is infinite, appearing as finite thoughts.  16 hours ago, Orb said: But then at the same time theres the whole "follow what feels good" thing in LoA. Write what’s wanted on your dreamboard. If & when discordant thoughts about a separate self arise, don’t believe them, inspect. Write the thoughts out on the back of the board. Now the thoughts are perception. Much easier to see. Quote Mention YouTube  Website  Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) @Mandy you're kinda right 🙂.  2 things are needed for a contradiction, that's why it's a di-chotomy.  I know what follow what feels good really points too.  @Phil you're kinda right too, there's some more subtle beliefs that are being overlooked.  I can't have a big double sided board in my room, there wouldn't be enough space.  I only have a 1 sided smaller whiteboard on wheels.  I can't believe I bought a white board for this shit! 😂 Edited October 26, 2022 by Orb Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 11 hours ago, Orb said: @Mandyt 🙂 @Phil I can't believe I bought a white board for this shit! 😂 😂😂😂😂 Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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