Phil Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 @Isagi Yoichi Start with can you point to it? (Desire, desires) Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isagi Yoichi Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 5 minutes ago, Phil said: Start with can you point it? (Desire, desires) Yeah half an hour ago I wanted a coffee but I am too lazy to go and make one now I don't want it, is that a desire? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 @Isagi Yoichi Stick with present actual (direct) experience. Not point to it mentally… can you point to desire or desires with your finger, presently? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isagi Yoichi Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 1 minute ago, Phil said: can you point to desire or desires with your finger, presently? No Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 @Isagi Yoichi So desire / desires is therefore not of perception / external? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isagi Yoichi Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 19 hours ago, Phil said: @Isagi Yoichi So desire / desires is therefore not of perception / external? IDK Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 @Isagi Yoichi Can you take a picture of desire? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isagi Yoichi Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, Phil said: @Isagi Yoichi Can you take a picture of desire? No Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 3 minutes ago, Phil said: @Isagi Yoichi Can you take a picture of desire? Is a goal and a desire not the same thing? Thoughts that are conceptualized as a desire/goal // creation Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 9 minutes ago, Isagi Yoichi said: No So what does that reveal? 7 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said: Is a goal and a desire not the same thing? Take a picture of each of let’s see. 🤔 7 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said: Thoughts that are conceptualized as a desire/goal // creation You had me at thoughts. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 19 minutes ago, Phil said: You had me at thoughts. Okay sure just thoughts. But sometimes we differentiate between a memory, a desire, an idea etc etc Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 @WhiteOwl We don’t. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, Phil said: @WhiteOwl We don’t. You never use the terms memory, desire, idea? I've read that from use Phil Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 @WhiteOwl It’s a narrative, beliefs, that there is someone else differentiating. That would be in & of itself, differentiating. There is literally no experience “here” (of memories, desires or ideas). There’s no thinker, and therein no thinkers. Thoughts as it were, spontaneously appear. Reality is simply effortless. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 minute ago, Phil said: @WhiteOwl It’s a narrative, beliefs, that there is someone else differentiating. That would be in & of itself, differentiating. I am talking about the difference between desire, idea, memory, goal. What is the difference between those? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 @WhiteOwl There is no actual difference. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 21 minutes ago, Phil said: @WhiteOwl There is no actual difference. So its all the same, attraction. Thats interesting. Also goes for past and future of course, and every other concept Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isagi Yoichi Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 hour ago, Phil said: So what does that reveal? idk lol Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 38 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said: So it’s all the same, attraction. Thats interesting. Also goes for past and future of course, and every other concept Presently appearing thoughts. A perfect, seamless flow of unconditional & infinitely abundant consciousness. 🤷 Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 32 minutes ago, Isagi Yoichi said: idk lol What color is desire? What shape and size? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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