Bob Seeker Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Anything you all do? Anything you say to yourself? Or just sort of feel the emotions? what helps? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Sometimes an interpretation feels discordant but the emotion felt, the guidance, the opportunity to align the interpretation is overlooked. Acknowleding and expressing the emotions allows the interpretation to change in that it’s aligned with feeling, with emotion, with the guidance - with what you actually want. Sometimes self referential thoughts, thoughts about a self in time, are overlooked. Emotion on the other hand is presently-experienced-only. So acknowledging & expressing emotions is inherently grounding and mindfulness as well. There’s much truth in the old saying, ‘no self, no problem’. When one is “lost in thoughts” (sep self referential thoughts), there tends to be a problem mindset. By acknowledging emotions, grounding / mindfulness / presence… problem mindset is dispelled and solution mindset is uncovered. The top of the scale, love, joy, etc, is you. Lower on the scale is the discord of some interpretations. Expression in this way is like emptying of any discord of thoughts, and thus unfettering or uncovering yourself. This stands to clarify seeking, or, the belief that the feeling-better sought could come from someone, something or some future experience… when in fact the greatest-feeling if you will, is what some thoughts obscure & are discordant to. Emotions are related to preferences (wants, desires, goals, what’s written on the dreamboard) as well. Some thoughts resonate with what you want to create & experience and some don’t. Emotion clarifies why some thoughts resonate in this way and some don’t more deeply & clearly than logic & reason, as the alignment felt is the actual manifesting of the preferences, ‘in the flesh’, if you will. Using the scale is akin to ‘plugging the vacuum in’. Plugged in, consciously creating is not only acknowledged, but is enjoyment and change happens / preferences manifest. Sometimes referred to as communion, this is like ‘you’ getting on board with You, or more specifically… aligning thought with feeling / alignment of interpretations with feeling. Behaviors & actions aligned with preferences (what you want to create & experience) naturally unfold as thought is aligned with feeling / emotions are acknowledged and expressed. Put another way, your goals, aspirations, actions and behaviors all align or harmonize (consciously creating / creating as the creator). 20 hours ago, Bob Seeker said: Anything you all do? Step one is create a dreamboard. 20 hours ago, Bob Seeker said: Anything you say to yourself? Or just sort of feel the emotions? As far as what to say, it’s enough to say ‘I am feeling or experiencing the emotion ____________’. This is the acknowledgment of the guidance. This is a shift of focus, from self referential thoughts / discordant interpretations and ‘problem mindset’… to Source if you will, the guidance, alignment… allowing solutions to arise. For example, one might be experiencing the thoughts “I’m scared” and “I’m insecure”, and feeling the discord of the thoughts, yet not noticing there isn’t the second self implied by the thoughts, and the emotions which are actually felt aren’t acknowledged. There is the Self which is being & feeling the thoughts, and the discord & alignment of thoughts therein. There isn’t the sep self thoughts are about. As focus shifts to acknowledging emotions (in this example), fear & insecurity are acknowledged to be felt / experienced. Acknowledgment of the emotions fear & insecurity is acknowledgment of the guidance, which the thought / interpretation feels ‘off’ / discordant with / to. A ‘problem mindset’ of some sort is noticed to be baked into or inherent in the (discordant) interpretation. In allowing the next emotion on the scale (jealousy in this example) to be expressed, the interpretation already begins to change, in the ‘direction’ or orientation of, alignment. Again, in this example, the alignment felt is the letting go of (no longer focusing on) the discordant self referential thought(s)… and an acknowledgment (jealousy) of preferences - of what you want, from what you’ve experienced. Little by little, up the scale, feeling, focus and thoughts / interpretations are aligned. This is preferences (what’s wanted, goals, desires, etc) - manifesting. 20 hours ago, Bob Seeker said: what helps? With the dreamboard, clarify what you truly want in various areas of your life, such as career, hobbies, relationships & health. Imagine what’s wanted (preferences) already being actual / already being the case, and allow the feeling of the reality of this already being the case (already manifesting). That might bring up conditioning (the separate self of thought), like ‘aren’t I just imagining though?’, ‘don’t I have to still do a ton of work?’, ‘but it’s not the case and could only be the case in the future’ etc. Refer back to the scale if so, and consider the grounding, presence, mindfulness inherent in emotions & thoughts being experienced presently only. (Put in inversely, there is no actual experience of a separate self or future… so alignment of thought with feeling is alignment with reality as reality actually is). This inherently feels wonderful because reality is, that reality feels wonderful. Use the board to reveal all ‘big goals’ are really little steps, by writing what’s wanted to the right and allowing the smallest of steps to fill in to the left. The steps, seen visually, will naturally prioritize. Feel free to take a picture of the board to have as reference, and to erase and re-write steps in order of priority. If at a loss overall, consider referencing Maslow’s pyramid. If at a loss for ‘missing steps’, reference google, GPT and those with experience in the endeavors you’re interested in. Freely modify what’s on the board at any point as preferences can change and new insights & information come about. The board typically stars with a general idea & vision of what’s wanted, and becomes not only more specific but may also reveal what’s more deeply wanted / even more aligned & inspiring. It’s perfectly fine to ditch what doesn’t serve or align with your highest vision or aspirations (preferences). Place the board & the scale in a prominent, seen daily location. Re-align & retool the board as you go. Celebrate the smallest of victories & enjoy the synchronicity of the communion / unfolding. To expedite alignment, use affirmations. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 1 hour ago, Phil said: This stands to clarify seeking, or, the belief that the feeling-better sought could come from someone, something or some future experience… when in fact the greatest-feeling if you will, is what some thoughts obscure & are discordant to. Could you expand on this ? Why I believe that some future experience will make me happy and never satisfied with just what's present ? I know this but i cant apply it in my life . And yet..while the logical part of my brain knows these things..the emotional part of my brain is still wired in the old ways. When I go gym and lift weights.. it isn't to enjoy the process .. its to get a marvel physique etc... Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 59 minutes ago, Someone here said: Could you expand on this ? Why I believe that some future experience will make me happy and never satisfied with just what's present ? I know this but i cant apply it in my life . And yet..while the logical part of my brain knows these things..the emotional part of my brain is still wired in the old ways. When I go gym and lift weights.. it isn't to enjoy the process .. its to get a marvel physique etc... There’s an experience of the belief, but is there an experience of a believer, or is it presumed you’re the I which believes (does)? There’s an experience of the thought that there is this which can’t be applied to my life, but is there an experience of an I which knows this, and accordingly with the I, a my life? There’s an experience of the thought that there is a brain which knows there are things, but is there an experience of a brain which knows there are things? There’s an experience of perception, sensation, and the thought I go to the gym, I lift weights, but is there an experience of that I which goes & lifts? Is there any experience of a future, or is there a present experience of thoughts? Happiness / satisfaction / presence is you, appearing as these thoughts, about another you, another time… obscuring. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 5 minutes ago, Phil said: There’s an experience of the belief, but is there an experience of a believer, or is it assumed you’re the I which believes (does)? There’s an experience of the thought that there is this which can’t be applied to my life, but is there an experience of an I which knows this, and accordingly with the I, a my life? There’s an experience of the thought that there is a brain which knows there are things, but is there an experience of a brain which knows there are things? There’s an experience of perception, sensation, and the thought I go to the gym, I lift weights, but is there an experience of that I which goes & lifts? I'm identified as the physical body . Because I'm not awake to dissociate from the body and identify as consciousness which therein appears the body ..the brain ..the gym..the I-thought etc... So there is an experience of the body . I never cracked my skull and saw my brain 😂..so you are right there is no actual experience of brain or parts of the brain..but that's just for communication purposes..If we pay attention to every single word being said and disect them into thoughts VS. Perception..we really can't talk at all . So I understand your point ..but I hope you as well understand mine . 11 minutes ago, Phil said: Happiness / satisfaction / presence is you, appearing as these thoughts, about another you, another time… obscuring You are just repeating it .that's what my question was about .you told that guy(or girl) this and I asked you how is that true ? How is it possible? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 15 minutes ago, Someone here said: I'm identified as the physical body . Where is ‘the knower’ that knows there is physical? Where is the knower which knows it’s identified? 15 minutes ago, Someone here said: Because I'm not awake to dissociate from the body and identify as consciousness which therein appears the body ..the brain ..the gym..the I-thought etc... Where is the dissociator? Who or what is separate of consciousness & could or would identify as consciousness? 15 minutes ago, Someone here said: So there is an experience of the body . Or is there an experience of a presumption? 15 minutes ago, Someone here said: I never cracked my skull and saw my brain 😂..so you are right there is no actual experience of brain or parts of the brain..but that's just for communication purposes..If we pay attention to every single word being said and disect them into thoughts VS. Perception..we really can't talk at all . So I understand your point ..but I hope you as well understand mine . Where s the knower, that knows the thought experienced ‘brain’, defines perception, defines sensation, defines consciousness? Where’s the one who isn’t aware, but rather, pays attention? Where’s the knower which knows there’s a we which are talking? Where is “the understander”? How enjoyable, free & flowing, is this experience of conversing without false claims? 15 minutes ago, Someone here said: You are just repeating it .that's what my question was about .you told that guy(or girl) this and I asked you how is that true ? How is it possible? If there’s a you repeating, what’s being said isn’t allowed. Isn’t allowed to be heard. That ‘not hearing’ is the same. Thoughts arise, are believed, and shared. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 @Phil I'm asking sincerely. i really don't to waste your time ..no need to open endless branches for this discussion ..otherwise it won't go anywhere as always lol I just want to understand something: Why I believe my current situation in life is not good enough and why l believe if I achieved X ,Y or Z that my life will finally become fulfilling? I understand that this is a trap and it's never gonna work (hedonic adaption )..but I'm asking why I believe this? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 15 minutes ago, Someone here said: @Phil I'm asking sincerely. i really don't to waste your time ..no need to open endless branches for this discussion ..otherwise it won't go anywhere as always lol Feel free to explore / answer any of the previous questions asked. 15 minutes ago, Someone here said: I just want to understand something: Why I believe my current situation in life is not good enough and why l believe if I achieved X ,Y or Z that my life will finally become fulfilling? I understand that this is a trap and it's never gonna work (hedonic adaption )..but I'm asking why I believe this? That there is someone believing is a thought. Whatever reasons arise as answers to why, are / will also be thoughts. The answer to why isn’t what’s wanted. Happiness / satisfaction is wanted. Happiness / satisfaction is obscured by its own activity of appearing as thoughts. The dissonance experienced is that of the beliefs in parts / separation… with wholeness / reality. A conceptual answer might be more communicative. The last couple years have been spent as the hair and your life is a reflection of this. If the next couple years are spent as the tortoise, there will be no question as to truth (happiness / satisfaction / mindfulness / presence) and your life will be a reflection of this. The hair is fast, thinks fast, conceptualizes quickly & repeatedly and takes pride in that it thinks, knows, understands & does, and is therein overconfident, arrogant & self aggrandizing, deluded via mistaken identity, and in this obscuring… falls asleep, never making it to the ‘finish line’ as it were. The tortoise is slow, consistently meditates, acknowledges & allows emotions, slows down / takes the time to question, makes one small change at a time to diet, and therein the track & finish line are dispelled. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 4 minutes ago, Phil said: That there is someone believing is a thought. Whatever reasons arise as answers to why, are / will also be thoughts. The answer to why isn’t what’s wanted. Happiness / satisfaction is wanted. Happiness / satisfaction is obscured by its own activity of appearing as thoughts. A conceptual answer might be more communicative. The last couple years have been spent as the hair. If the next couple years are spent as the tortoise, there will be no question as to truth (happiness / satisfaction / mindfulness / presence). The hair is fast, thinks fast, conceptualizes quickly & repeatedly and takes pride in that it does, and is therein overconfident, arrogant & self aggrandizing, and in this obscuring… falls asleep, never making it to the ‘finish line’ as it were. The tortoise is slow, consistently meditates, acknowledges & allows emotions, slows down / takes the time to question, makes one small change at a time to diet, and therein the track & finish line are dispelled. Brilliant. Thanks 🙏 Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Seeker Posted May 7 Author Share Posted May 7 @Phil Okay, so it seems I was unclear about the purpose of the emotional scale. I thought it was to just clear out emotions to allow you to feel better. Now I am getting the sense that it is more about raising your vibration by focusing on a higher vibration thought, so that you are more in alignment with creative energy and with good feeling. I am getting the sense that it helps you achieve what is on the dream board through this raising of vibration. Purposefully focusing on a thought that I was not already thinking or vibrating with seemed counterintuitive to me at first, but I am trying it with an open mind, and I can see that it does make me feel better, at least partially. I woke up feeling some fear this morning so I did the emotional scale and was able to feel some joy and excitement. It is not that the fear was completely gone right away, but I definitely felt better over all. I do feel more empowered to create and focus on the positive aspects of my day today, and what I CAN do, as opposed to what I do not like about today. At least this is a start for me. I had gotten frustrated with the dream board numerous times because I felt like it was not helping me feel good. Maybe with more reliance on the emotional scale I will feel more encouraged to work towards the things I would like to manifest. I am hopeful that I might be able to apply your philosophy to improve my life. I am employing open mindedness, because I have been met with frustration before. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 @Bob Seeker Great to hear! Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Seeker Posted May 7 Author Share Posted May 7 3 hours ago, Phil said: @Bob Seeker Great to hear! So do the emotions such as fear come out of you after a while? How does this occur? When will the fear go away, and how? Should I do anything? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 13 hours ago, Bob Seeker said: So do the emotions such as fear come out of you after a while? How does this occur? Emotions would’ve had to have gone into you, to come out of you, yes? Did that occur? 13 hours ago, Bob Seeker said: When will the fear go away, and how? Should I do anything? Would you want an infallible compass to go away? What would you do with it? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Seeker Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 @Phil So if I am understanding correctly, I was feeling fear because I was believing thoughts that are not in agreement with the truth. So the fear is telling me that the thoughts are not in agreement so that I can let them go, or see beyond them to what is true. is this what you mean by guidance? Also, why such an array of emotions? And Regarding the emotional scale, why go through all the emotions, why not just skip a lot of them? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 22 minutes ago, Bob Seeker said: @Phil So if I am understanding correctly, I was feeling fear because I was believing thoughts that are not in agreement with the truth. So the fear is telling me that the thoughts are not in agreement so that I can let them go, or see beyond them to what is true. is this what you mean by guidance? Yes, you got it. 22 minutes ago, Bob Seeker said: Also, why such an array of emotions? The nature of Being, and that Being is being This. 22 minutes ago, Bob Seeker said: And Regarding the emotional scale, why go through all the emotions, why not just skip a lot of them? No reason. Whatever works best really. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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