WhiteOwl Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 It can be difficult to know exactly what you feel or think about something, while you can surely feel a lot of discord when thinking about the topic. In my case right now its about this women i am seeing. We had a discussion and now i feel discord thinking about seeing her. not sure which emotions exactly. how do i find out what its about? it could be a lot of things. question is also related to any topic really, as sometimes its hard to figure out what the feeling to be expressed and let go is. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said: It can be difficult to know exactly what you feel or think about something, while you can surely feel a lot of discord when thinking about the topic. Help me out with clarity on the inquiry here. The title is about how to know what discord felt is about. But there in the op there’s a subtle change to what you feel or think. I’m confused by this, as the title seems to be about the discord, while the op seems to be about knowing about someone else. 14 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said: In my case right now its about this women i am seeing. We had a discussion and now i feel discord thinking about seeing her. not sure which emotions exactly. how do i find out what its about? Seems to be about the thinking, about her. 14 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said: it could be a lot of things. Yeah. Thought is truly magical in that way. 14 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said: question is also related to any topic really, as sometimes its hard to figure out what the feeling to be expressed and let go is. How was that actually accomplished, what was it like? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 20 minutes ago, Phil said: 37 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said: Seems to be about the thinking, about her Its surely about the thinking and not her. But i feel discord without knowing what was thought which is sort of necessary to see? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 @WhiteOwl What role does knowing play? Does knowing seem to be illuminating, clarifying, or obscuring, confusing, ‘getting in the way’ of seeing clearly? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Phil said: @WhiteOwl What role does knowing play? Does knowing seem to be illuminating, clarifying, or obscuring, confusing, ‘getting in the way’ of seeing clearly? Seems to be confusing. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 2 hours ago, WhiteOwl said: It can be difficult to know exactly what you feel or think about something, while you can surely feel a lot of discord when thinking about the topic. In my case right now its about this women i am seeing. We had a discussion and now i feel discord thinking about seeing her. not sure which emotions exactly. how do i find out what its about? it could be a lot of things. question is also related to any topic really, as sometimes its hard to figure out what the feeling to be expressed and let go is. What is the thinking or thoughts about seeing her? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Phil said: What is the thinking or thoughts about seeing her? “I want to see her” feels discordant. Or does it that’s the fucking question. I do feel some tension/emotion though but what does it mean. i want to want to see her. But something is discordant around that. I feel worry we wont have a good time. I feel worry it will be like last time. That I will feel unworthiness. i feel worry and discourgament “I am not funny enough” Edited December 13, 2023 by WhiteOwl Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 @Philexpressing what I feel towards a person doesn’t change it towards alignment but I guess there is some expressing missing then? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said: “I want to see her” feels discordant. Or does it that’s the fucking question. I do feel some tension/emotion though but what does it mean. i want to want to see her. But something is discordant around that. I feel worry we wont have a good time. I feel worry it will be like last time. That I will feel unworthiness. i feel worry and discourgament “I am not funny enough” Are you saying the discord isn’t about her, and is felt in regard to self referential thoughts? 5 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said: @Philexpressing what I feel towards a person doesn’t change it towards alignment but I guess there is some expressing missing then? Sorry, I’m not sure what’s meant by “it”. The discord…? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, Phil said: Are you saying the discord isn’t about her, and is felt in regard to self referential thoughts? Would be discord ever actually be about her? What would that look like. i hope its about self referential thoughts. Or it is Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, Phil said: Are you saying the discord isn’t about her, and is felt in regard to self referential thoughts? Sorry, I’m not sure what’s meant by “it”. The discord…? Doesnt change feeling. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said: Would be discord ever actually be about her? No. 4 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said: What would that look like. Believing the discord is about her, as opposed to how thoughts feel. 4 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said: i hope its about self referential thoughts. Or it is Yes. It is. Sometimes it’s helpful to reference an extreme example, to draw out the distinction. The most extreme example I’m aware of as far as self referential thoughts seeming to be known but actually being belief(s) is Clayton Bigsby. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said: Doesnt change feeling. Feeling doesn’t change. That would be a condition. Feeling is unconditional. Even the word “feeling” is too much. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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