James123 Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 İf you really do know that what you really are is eternally nothing, and the life, which is so temporary not even a eye blink that giving to you is a gift. Will there be any suffering? Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."
Eternal Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 Suffering comes from resisting what is Quote Mention
James123 Posted March 5, 2023 Author Posted March 5, 2023 14 minutes ago, Eternal said: Suffering comes from resisting what is What is resisting? How do you know what it is? Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."
James123 Posted March 5, 2023 Author Posted March 5, 2023 23 minutes ago, Eternal said: Suffering comes from resisting what is Even pretending to knowing Language is resisting. Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."
Eternal Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 1 hour ago, James123 said: What is resisting? How do you know what it is? It's when you want something else other than what is experienced. I never said I knew what resisting is but the ego self can't understand it because it typically only lives in the past or future Quote Mention
James123 Posted March 6, 2023 Author Posted March 6, 2023 9 hours ago, Eternal said: It's when you want something else other than what is experienced. I never said I knew what resisting is but the ego self can't understand it because it typically only lives in the past or future Do you think there is a difference between understanding and ego self? Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."
Eternal Posted March 6, 2023 Posted March 6, 2023 8 hours ago, James123 said: Do you think there is a difference between understanding and ego self? Understanding truth is beyond the mind and words are just pointers, what anyone says. The mind will interpret it. There is no me to think about understanding or the ego self. There is only awareness above all of that. There never was or is a so called "I" or doer. There is only being which is before all of that, which is whole and loving, unconditional, creation etc.. Quote Mention
James123 Posted March 6, 2023 Author Posted March 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Eternal said: There is only awareness above all of that. Where is it? What is below? 3 hours ago, Eternal said: There is only being which is before all of that, which is whole and loving, unconditional, creation etc.. If it is before, what comes before and after that? Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."
Eternal Posted March 6, 2023 Posted March 6, 2023 1 hour ago, James123 said: Where is it? What is below? If it is before, what comes before and after that? There is just awareness. Prior to everything. Awareness is aware of thoughts, feelings, sensations etc.. Quote Mention
James123 Posted March 6, 2023 Author Posted March 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, Eternal said: There is just awareness. Prior to everything. Awareness is aware of thoughts, feelings, sensations etc.. What about when you sleep or before birth? Are you aware that there is an awareness? Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."
Eternal Posted March 6, 2023 Posted March 6, 2023 1 hour ago, James123 said: What about when you sleep or before birth? Are you aware that there is an awareness? There is no me who sleeps or was born but there is a thought about it. Awareness is aware of those thoughts Quote Mention
James123 Posted March 6, 2023 Author Posted March 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Eternal said: There is no me who sleeps or was born but there is a thought about it. Awareness is aware of those thoughts Isn't these your thoughts? If you never learned what awareness is will it be there for you? Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."
Eternal Posted March 6, 2023 Posted March 6, 2023 Well, awareness is simply aware of everything that is happening now. Yes, it is just one thought at a time so to speak. I have seen through the illusory nature of the "I" so there isn't a me anymore but the tricky nature of language makes it appear to seem so. It's almost like there is life/spirit/awareness operating through me and no do-ership but everything gets interpated by the mind on what is said. So there is no me, no you, we all share the same being which is higher than this sense of having the need to do something all the time Quote Mention
James123 Posted March 6, 2023 Author Posted March 6, 2023 Just now, Eternal said: Well, awareness is simply aware of everything that is happening now. Yes, it is just one thought at a time so to speak. I have seen through the illusory nature of the "I" so there isn't a me anymore but the tricky nature of language makes it appear to seem so. It's almost like there is life/spirit/awareness operating through me and no do-ership but everything gets interpated by the mind on what is said. So there is no me, no you, we all share the same being which is higher than this sense of having the need to do something all the time Isn't it so beautiful? What we just say is just a personal opinion, yet We are already. Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."
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