MetaSage Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 How can you apply principles such as integrity and authenticity (for real) in your consciousness business and its marketing strategy? How to be authentic and at the same time be able to thrive as a business? Authentic, used here as an abnormally high standard, implies without hype nor superficiality. @Phil how is a business like yours to be successful, considering that the field of business itself is about manipulation? How to market a business like this honestly? What role does integrity play in business? Appreciate it. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 @MetaSage What’s the field of business? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetaSage Posted February 27, 2023 Author Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Phil said: @MetaSage What’s the field of business? Business. As with politics, it's a game whose rules are manipulation-based. A business on consciousness or "spirituality" like yours. Edited February 27, 2023 by MetaSage Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 @MetaSage Like who’s? How is spirituality about manipulation? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetaSage Posted February 27, 2023 Author Share Posted February 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, Phil said: @MetaSage Like who’s? How is spirituality about manipulation? Like your business, the way you make a living through AoB, consulting calls or videos, etc. Services and products. Not spirituality, a business about it. if you want to play the games (business, politics, social interaction) as they lay, you will manipulate and pursue self-survival. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, MetaSage said: Like your business, the way you make a living through AoB, consulting calls or videos, etc. Services and products. Not spirituality, a business about it. if you want to play the games (business, politics, social interaction) as they lay, you will manipulate and pursue self-survival. Who though? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetaSage Posted February 27, 2023 Author Share Posted February 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Phil said: Who though? What we call "Phil" perhaps? That body there. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 @MetaSage What’s a we? What’s a Phil? What’s a body? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetaSage Posted February 27, 2023 Author Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) @Phil I don't think this inquiry is useful for this thread. However, noted. Useful questions to contemplate at some point. Perhaps that could be moved to another forum section. It'd probably be better if suggestions were grounded on the distinctions that the questioner held, or if the comments were similar to those distinctions in some way. I could ask you what "food" do "you" "eat" and the discussion would turn into a non dual meditation or some such. Otherwise we're using the same words but are talking different terms. Anyhow, let's ground it on business. How does Phil make a living through his business? How could a YouTube channel generate views? and all the questions in the first post. Edited February 27, 2023 by MetaSage Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovingPresence Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 @MetaSageIn regards to marketing you either believe in what you do which is an expression of your love and therefore want to share it… or you don’t and just do it for profit. There is nothing wrong with self survival either.. cooking is self survival too. But there are different ways to cook. Just know what you are doing and why you are doing it. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 19 minutes ago, MetaSage said: @Phil I don't think this inquiry is useful for this thread. However, noted. Useful questions to contemplate at some point. Perhaps that could be moved to another forum section. What’s a thinker? 19 minutes ago, MetaSage said: It'd probably be better if suggestions were grounded on the distinctions that the questioner held, or if the comments were similar to those distinctions in some way. What’s a questioner? 19 minutes ago, MetaSage said: I could ask you what "food" do "you" "eat" and the discussion would turn into a non dual meditation or some such. Otherwise we're using the same words but are talking different terms. What’s a you? What’s we? What’s a nondual meditation? 19 minutes ago, MetaSage said: Anyhow, let's ground it on business. How does Phil make a living through his business? How could a YouTube channel generate views? and all the questions in the first post. What’s a Phil? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetaSage Posted February 27, 2023 Author Share Posted February 27, 2023 @Phil I don't know. What's knowledge? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, MetaSage said: @Phil I don't know. What's knowledge? Appearance. More specifically maybe, “appearing”. Pop in ‘knowledge’ instead of ‘free will’… … and then ‘understanding’. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 @MetaSage Is the question really how does a separate self and selves, survival, meaning, purpose, value, worth (etc, etc) & manipulation jive with integrity & authenticity, as far as nonduality, such that there isn’t hypocrisy etc? Maybe even more so, is the question how could there be alignment & well being therein? Or maybe… how do assumptions & conceptualizations of what (already) is jive with nonduality…? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetaSage Posted February 27, 2023 Author Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Phil said: @MetaSage Is the question really how does a separate self and selves, survival, meaning, purpose, value and worth jive with integrity & authenticity, as far as nonduality, such that there isn’t hypocrisy etc? Interesting take. I guess that's one way it could be put. But no, the question is how to create, develop and market a "spirituality" business by infusing integrity and honesty, that is, without using superficiality nor hype, just communicating? Which is a challenge. Say your YouTube channel. Edited February 27, 2023 by MetaSage Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetaSage Posted February 27, 2023 Author Share Posted February 27, 2023 44 minutes ago, LovingPresence said: @MetaSageIn regards to marketing you either believe in what you do which is an expression of your love and therefore want to share it… or you don’t and just do it for profit. There is nothing wrong with self survival either.. cooking is self survival too. But there are different ways to cook. Just know what you are doing and why you are doing it. appreciate your contribution. when it comes to success in business in the conventional sense, sharing isn't enough. See others which are effective at business. What does it take to do so? Do you have a business? Imagine being honest like a child and from that disposition, creating and developing a biz. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, MetaSage said: that sounds like an interesting take. Yes. I guess it could be put that way. Add in the domain of "business". So essentially the question is then how to sell beliefs and assumptions as nonduality to make money, (‘with’ authenticity & integrity)…? And is there any ‘listening to’ or consideration of well being in this scenario? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetaSage Posted February 27, 2023 Author Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Phil said: So essentially the question is then how to sell beliefs and assumptions as nonduality to make money? And is there any ‘listening to’ or consideration of well being in this scenario? no, honestly communicating discoveries. About integrity: not catering to people's desires and fears even though this is common even in spirituality. Don't know what you mean by your second question. Edited February 27, 2023 by MetaSage Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, MetaSage said: no, honestly communicating discoveries. About integrity: not catering to people's desires and fears. Don't know what you mean by your second question. Who’s discoveries? Who’s desires and fears? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetaSage Posted February 27, 2023 Author Share Posted February 27, 2023 Just now, Phil said: Who’s discoveries? myself Just now, Phil said: Who’s desires and fears? others' Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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