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    Actualized.org and Leo Gura must be stopped

    in Emptying

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    11 minutes ago, Robed Mystic said:

    You're not appreciating pure subjectivity.  That's what reality is.  It's pure subjectivity. Or haven't you figured that out yet?  You've much to learn, young padawan.  But we'll get you there, should you choose to stick around 

    don't patronize me.

    try not believing in capitalism.  bet your ass it will still exist.  even though its only a concept.

    Actualized.org and Leo Gura must be stopped

    in Emptying

    Posted · Edited by sacredprofane

    5 minutes ago, Robed Mystic said:

    Illusion is all there is to reality. That's what it is.  And consciousness is nothing.   You can zoom in on your hand forever.   You cannot reduce reality down to atoms or quarks.   It is an infinite fractal. 

    this was your 666th post.

    maybe because....it's pure devilry 

    how can an illusion be cruel, btw?

    Actualized.org and Leo Gura must be stopped

    in Emptying

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    1 minute ago, Robed Mystic said:

    The ego's mind is reality..

    Yes - you can skip it by choosing to look the other way .  But since reality is made of Consciousness- (in other words it is made of nothing) can you can actually do more than just look the other way.  You can actually change the way.  The way is something created by Consciousness .  But this isn't possible (ordinarily) at the human level of consciousness- so thus can you just choose to view things the way you want to.  And that's great.  Just keep in mind that you can also go beyond that. 

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    the ego mind is illusion, illusion is not reality.  consciousness is not nothing, you are constantly confusing nothing with everything it seems.  and i'm not talking about "looking the other way" i'm talking about look another way.  

    Actualized.org and Leo Gura must be stopped

    in Emptying

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    1 minute ago, Robed Mystic said:

    And why is contradiction a problem?  Perhaps contradiction is a feature of reality?  But yes, Consciousness is primary.  Everything is held within this thing called Consciousness.  It is held within the mind.   But there are many layers to the mind- and the layer at which the cruel world exists is the same layer the human mind sits.  But there is a trick that Consciousness can do.  It does have the ability to skip layers, it's just not very easy to access. 

    Do you have thoughts on the substance of reality?  Like what is it made of?  Remove the abstract now - and bring in something that you love.  Its called science.

    reality doesn't contradict itself, only the ego mind's take on reality does that.  its actually the easiest thing ever to "skip layers" and see anything differently, "cruel" is just one arbitrary human take out of many.  

    the substance of reality is indeed consciousness.

    Actualized.org and Leo Gura must be stopped

    in Emptying

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    Just now, Robed Mystic said:

    Uh uh.  You're not getting out of this.  Address my questions and then I will address yours.  Basically- I asked you first.

    "it's a cruel world" is a belief, a spin, an interpretation, a position you can come and go from.  it seems to totally contradict your previous lofty statements on "consciousness" being primary to all interpretation.  

    My world view is that all interpretation is mutable.  there is no "correct take" on what it's like.  

    metaphysics is just a way of understanding things that is not limited to the so-called scientific.  

    Actualized.org and Leo Gura must be stopped

    in Emptying

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    1 minute ago, Robed Mystic said:

    Well it is a cruel world.   Unless you've been sheltered.  So, have you been sheltered?  

    Now getting back to metaphysics- let me ask you this - since you decided to return.  What is your current worldview- or do you not have one?

    what does "metaphysics" even mean to you?

    Actualized.org and Leo Gura must be stopped

    in Emptying

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    1 hour ago, Phil said:

    Yeah no worries man. It’s just a suggestion really and of course not for everyone. It just seems like you have a lot to say about spirituality, truth, teachers & teachings, etc, and could share what you like as you like through a creative platform such as Youtube etc. 

    i want to see this happen as well...maybe instead of paying him off to take a break from the A--- forum, the money could be offered him to follow through with this?

    Actualized.org and Leo Gura must be stopped

    in Emptying

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    5 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:


    Oh yeah?  Are you sure?  At least I'm open to who I am.  You have the advantage of knowing that.  I have no idea who you are.  I requested you email me so we could have a discussion but you passed.  You're sniping on here from behind a veil of ignorance.  I don't think that's good for you; nevermind what's good for others.  It would be really easy for me to conclude certain things about you but I will hold my tongue for your benefit and for the benefit of everyone on here.  You don't win anything by tearing things down from a distance.  If Leo Gura didn't ban me from his forum I would say what I have said on there.  I actually had conversations with Leo over email, and at least I know who he is.  I know who Robed Mystic is.  That's important.  I'd rather disagree with someone I know who they are than respond to sniping from someone who hides in the tall grass taking shots.

    you...really like that metaphor huh?

    i'm just saying....

    you PROCLAIMED you were done with this forum

    and you're here...with no mention of your previous proclamation, that just kind of totally destroys your credibility as far as i'm concerned

    Actualized.org and Leo Gura must be stopped

    in Emptying

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    Just now, Robed Mystic said:

    If you are that big of a talker paste my comments in where you said I said that  

     

    43 minutes ago, Robed Mystic said:

    Then what are you asking?  I asked her of she has had a mystical experience.   It was not about credentials.  It was whether or not she could validate the stuff being taught here.

     

    41 minutes ago, sacredprofane said:

    omg...yes, but that's the POINT you agreed on...IT REQUIRES NOTHING TO VALIDATE.. no mystical experience necessary!

     

    38 minutes ago, Robed Mystic said:

    Where did I say that?  My stance is to be opposed to taking anything on as dogma.  I think I made myself clear there.

     

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