James123
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1 minute ago, Jane said:
Thanks for the conversation.
I understand you now.
Thanks for your patience and for sticking with me on this.
No problem whatsoever. Thank you very much too!!! Don't worry, i love you.
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2 minutes ago, Jane said:
James. Are you saying that wanting love from another person is attachment and therefore is our suffering?
Definitely.
3 minutes ago, Jane said:If yes, then is it better to avoid loving intimate relationships with other people, else we suffer because we have formed an aattachment to them?
Why don't you just love the other person without any expectations?
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12 minutes ago, Jane said:
Do you want attachment love?
Would that be love wanting itself, love loving itself?
This cause suffering.
12 minutes ago, Jane said:Wouldn’t it be when you are making love to someone else, wouldn’t that just be love making love to itself?
Attaching to itself?
Love is already what now is. As you said before.
13 minutes ago, Jane said:of course this can only be known within the illusory dream of separation where the experience of separation longs to come together again? To become one again?
We are always one, just so called attachments shows as two.
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5 minutes ago, Mandy said:
@James123 Is this a conversation/exploration or an AMA thread?
İ am just having a conversation. İ don't know what AMA is.
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Just now, Jane said:
This is already effortless boundless unconditional freedom
Of course. İf you are not suffering whatsoever, don't even consider what i am saying.
1 minute ago, Jane said:If there’s just love then there’s no opposite. Love has no opposite. Oneness has no argument with itself.
This is already effortless boundless unconditional freedom.
What is the difference between what i said and what you said?
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33 minutes ago, Mandy said:
Depending on how you define want. Wanting what you don't believe you have or can have is suffering, assigning future happiness to want is suffering, but pure wanting is the same as creating or appreciating feels pretty damn good.
Creating comes from not knowing.
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1 minute ago, Jane said:
Are these not all thoughts/ attachments?
When you are deeply in love, can you think of anything or stay/focus/overwhelmed with emotion?
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3 minutes ago, Jane said:
So do you mean it takes a though to let go of a thought ?
It takes an attachment to detach from an attachment?
Completely opposite. Effortlessness inevitably brings the love.
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2 minutes ago, Jane said:
Let’s talk about “attachment”
Would you who is writing on this forum about letting go of attachments. I’m just curious now, would you let go of your attachment to your love interest- your lover?
If I want love that's attachment, if I am a lover, I am is me.
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13 minutes ago, Jane said:
Nothing is everything, already complete and whole, not needing or wanting or expecting anything, it’s already everything, literally everything.
Theres nothing everything can attach to, to make it anymore whole. There is nothing to let go of, you are already the absolute, already unconditional freedom and love.
You cannot know the beloved because you are the beloved. There’s only the beloved.
These are all thoughts / attachments.
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1 minute ago, Mandy said:
Nobody wants that.
İt is inevitable. Wanting=Suffering.
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2 minutes ago, Jane said:
But then if there’s only the love that is nothing … then it’s just love letting go of love. Can love let go of love?
Love is the inevitable outcome of being nothing.
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4 minutes ago, Mandy said:
It usually doesn't occur that we must appreciate the thing we no longer want and then focus on the thing we do want in order to truly let go. The old is never excluded, killed, cut off, you could say that it only is liberated to become the new. "Throw they bread upon the water."
What about if you come to point that wanting never occurs?
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2 minutes ago, Jane said:
Feelings/Emotions arise unexpectedly.
You can’t control how or what you feel in the moment which is always free to be.When there is no expectations there will be no more "you". Your true self is freedom itself.
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5 minutes ago, Jane said:
What about attachment to your love interest- your lover.
Would you let go of him/her?
Love is not the love you mentioned. Love is the thing that when there is nothing, literally "nothing", there is only love.
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5 minutes ago, Jane said:
Its all you.
Let life break you, or make you, and just feel how that feels. It’s not like you can free yourself of yourself… you can’t do that.When there is no expectations you can completely be free.
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Love is the answer of all problems / attachments. At least for me.
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16 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:
What or who is letting go?
YOU! Who is writing above sentences. Or knows what writing is.
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Why surrendering is so difficult for you? Worldly Achievement, attachment, expectations and satisfactions. Whatever you attach start to let go of them. Then be completely free.
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20 minutes ago, Jane said:
Here are 2 good examples of a paradox.
(there never was paradox)
(the lies that tell the truth)
There never was paradox explains what the truth is.
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5 hours ago, Jane said:
Two black eyes 💀
Lol
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16 minutes ago, Someone here said:
Haha you are right .
Just to be clear ..no ill feelings towards you brother. I like you . Have a nice day.
No worries brother. I love you too. Have a nice day brother.
Peace!
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6 minutes ago, Someone here said:
arguing with you is pointless
Arguing anyone about anything is pointless. We are not special.
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1 minute ago, Someone here said:
nother hopeless attempt to encapsulate what enlightenment is . Its not this nor that. Its both and neither .
"You" can never get what enlightenment is. Drop, surrender, dieeeeeeeee.
Why letting go is so difficult?
in Nonduality, Consciousness, Awakening, Enlightenment, Self-Recognition
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When you smell roses, do you expect something from rose? Or it just smells good? Same thing for human beings. Love the way that they are. Rest will come inevitably.