[Why Enlightenment and Love made me antisocial?]

41 minutes ago, Phil said:

@James123

And not even. 🙂

 

Definitely 😁 😁 😁 

[Being self conscious]

On 5/16/2024 at 10:37 PM, JG1001 said:

When you become enlightened you’re not self conscious anymore.  

What will you eat for dinner tonight?

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21 hours ago, Phil said:

@James123

♥️

 

QM’s is nice for dispelling the knower too. Apparently if you stick a cat in a box with an unpredictable radioactive substance, it’s not possible to know if the cat is alive or dead at any given time because the observer doesn’t know if the radioactive substance was triggered or not, thus killing the cat. It is said one would have to open the box to know. The experiment highlights the assumptions of there being an observer which knows, time, life & death.  

Life=Love, enlightenment=before so called birth. 

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6 minutes ago, Phil said:

@James123

 

One that can know anything would be a knower (subject) of things (objects). A knower would inherently be finite, as if there is a finite thing (known), by default there is no infinite, and therein I (as the knower) would be finite. 

 

But that doesn’t account for the awareness of subject-object & self-referential thoughts. One aware must be prior to these thoughts, as one is aware of thoughts. 

 

What is prior to & aware of thoughts? I am. 

 

 

Sometimes it seems it is said, “form = formless & formless = form”. That isn’t true, as I am appearing as thoughts. Nothing (me), appearing as something (thoughts). That which is apparent is not equal to that which is appearing, as that which is appearance… isn’t. 

 

Another thought, ‘relative truth’ could seem to account for this discrepancy, yet ‘relative truth’ is another object of thought, an apparent concept. It’s like saying there is nothing (formless) & something (form) and these two are one, or, oneness. It’s also like saying ‘becoming’, as in formless is becoming or becomes form. None of that is true either. 

İ definitely agree with you. Amazing brother, amazing 😍 😍 😍 

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5 minutes ago, Phil said:

How so?

How can one know anything? Including so called herself/himself?

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21 hours ago, Phil said:

👊🏼

 

Mushrooms are great. Psychedelics are great. They’re also pretty powerful and can blow through subtleties. ‘They’ also don’t actually exist. 🙂

 

We aren’t nothing - we aren’t at all. There is no we. That little nuance, that little thought, maybe was blown through. Awesome, all for it, but yet can ‘come back around’ to be aligned.

 

No one has an ego to write these sentences… this is thoughts arising, about there being a doer / doers, egos, writers and sentences. This is literally appearance. “Writing itself” if you will. There’s no “ultimately”, nor is there “time”. “That’s” THIS. (Nothing, you ♥️). I’m not talking to you, nor am I talking to myself - I’m not talking. Period. There’s no “talker”, there nobody “here” lol. 

 

Subtle nuances like this as well. There’s no you which has pain. Nothing (you) is being the whole show, and therein pain (sensation) as well. 

There’s nobody that remembers, nobody that has sentences, nobody here to believe or be believed, no ego which never leaves. 

 

This subtle nuances stand to be de-contextualized as arising context which imply there is something. 

Namely some thing which isn’t This, or the present / The Present. 🎁 

 

 

 

* Onlookers… which there aren’t, do your research and be responsible for set, setting & dose or you’ll very much wish you did. 

What about not knowing?

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14 hours ago, Phil said:

👊🏼

 

Mushrooms are great. Psychedelics are great. They’re also pretty powerful and can blow through subtleties. ‘They’ also don’t actually exist. 🙂

 

We aren’t nothing - we aren’t at all. There is no we. That little nuance, that little thought, maybe was blown through. Awesome, all for it, but yet can ‘come back around’ to be aligned.

 

No one has an ego to write these sentences… this is thoughts arising, about there being a doer / doers, egos, writers and sentences. This is literally appearance. “Writing itself” if you will. There’s no “ultimately”, nor is there “time”. “That’s” THIS. (Nothing, you ♥️). I’m not talking to you, nor am I talking to myself - I’m not talking. Period. There’s no “talker”, there nobody “here” lol. 

 

Subtle nuances like this as well. There’s no you which has pain. Nothing (you) is being the whole show, and therein pain (sensation) as well. 

There’s nobody that remembers, nobody that has sentences, nobody here to believe or be believed, no ego which never leaves. 

 

This subtle nuances stand to be de-contextualized as arising context which imply there is something. 

Namely some thing which isn’t This, or the present / The Present. 🎁 

 

 

 

* Onlookers… which there aren’t, do your research and be responsible for set, setting & dose or you’ll very much wish you did. 

Hell yeah brother!!! 😎 😎  You damn right.

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3 hours ago, Phil said:

That is a narrative, a story unfolding of thoughts. It’s on behalf of a separate finite self, which there isn’t. 

 

THIS, is a story unfolding of which you, your interest, your curiosity, are met with the unfolding of. 

 

No Phil. No screen. No internet. No electricity. 

 

 

Cut this day by day lonely shit. 

 

What’s wanted!?

Damn right. 

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14 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Ego doesn’t exist.  This is the thing.  It’s tricky.  Anyway enough enlightenment pointers from me now.  I can see how this stuff is not going to sink in and also sounds ridiculous.  I recommend reading Ramana Maharshi  as a good enlightenment teacher.  He’s good at explaining things and keeping it somewhat succinct.

Lol.

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27 minutes ago, Blessed2 said:

 

Maybe people are the "opposite" of consciousness, love and truth. 🤔

 

Probably. 

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58 minutes ago, Phil said:

@James123

How can I be antisocial, I am Alone?

Getting lonely, day by day. Lol. Fundamentally, no one is here but, you know what I am saying. 

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2 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

 

The Self doesn't have an ego.  This is so tricky and so simple at the same time.

Lol. When you have a small pain, you won't be able to remember your sentences believe me, ego never leaves. 

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9 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

There's no you to be anything.  I used to hate it when people used to say "there's no you" to me and now I'm saying this lol.  There's a grain of truth in it if you can grasp it.  It depends on how enlightened you want to get.  It's assuming the movie is real that's the trap.  So, do you like movies?  Not if you think the movie is real.  In that case you ain't watching a movie.  You're not considering that a movie, you're taking that to be reality.  It's like insisting one of your dreams is real while in the dream.  Then you wake up!  Like that.  But the wake up has to occur at some point for the illusion of the dream to be realized.

Ultimately, we are all nothing. However, you still have an ego to write these sentences. 

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1 minute ago, Mandy said:

Maybe there's assumptions that they aren't already that. 

I really don't know 🙂

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2 minutes ago, Isagi Yoichi said:

why ?

How old are you?

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1 minute ago, Phil said:

What, you don’t like movies?

I just watch movies, that's all. Lol. 

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Just now, Orb said:

Honestly, I can relate a little bit. I'm by no means an enlightened person but I'm very quiet most of the time. My girlfriend doesn't like when I'm sitting peacefully in silence lol. 

Lolllll.

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I have no idea, why? I just talk about consciousness, love and Truth. Why?

[Why letting go is so difficult?]

11 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Letting go is difficult because Truth vs. false is not clearly realized.  If false was realized, there would be no problem.  If you knew Plato's cave was an illusion and you were outside the cave, you wouldn't be concerned about what's going on in the cave -- unless you're curious about studying illusion for some reason.  Or it would be like clinging to a dream you had at night like it was Truth.  Nobody would do that.  That's a good pointer.  That's what the whole Life is a Dream pointer is really trying to get at.  It's a great analogy to what the false is in relation to Truth.  It gets even sneakier in that there's nothing to let go of because the Self is not a doer or a results seeker.  So any letting go is sneaky ego.  The Self doesn't need to let go of anything.  Renunciation is just a pointer just like solipsism is.  They both involve ego/mind and get close but no cigar to Truth.

What about attachments?

[Receipt of LOVE]

16 minutes ago, Isagi Yoichi said:

so true

 

have u tried fasting for days?

İ been fasting for a month now. İt feels amazing. Today, hit me so bad. İ am in love, active and mindful. 

[Receipt of LOVE]

Eat less, almost nothing.

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23 minutes ago, Jane said:

💯

 

Thanks James. ❤️

Anytime Jane!!!

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2 hours ago, Jane said:

Thanks James. That’s brilliant advice. Truly appreciated. 👍

 

I’ve taken the decision to end our relationship. I don’t even want to be platonic friends with him because I know that will hurt not being able to be intimate with him.

 

The only solution for me is to be alone and cut off all intimate attachments and ties with him. I can’t deal with all the hurting. 
 

I’ve already explained all this to him that I can’t be with him anymore, and left it with I LOVE YOU
 

Is that bloody selfish of me or what? 

Just be what you really are and do not change for anyone. That time, you will find the true love. 

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1 hour ago, Jane said:

I understand; but why do intimate relationships with others …hurt so much…for me they do anyway.

 

It’s like as soon as I tell my partner of 18 months some random spontaneous things ..like I want to do something that doesn’t include him, namely, I want to be alone for awhile….he responds by saying to me ( “don’t feel bad about it, I was expecting it, I hope everything works out for you” )

 

And then when I try to explain to him about why I don’t want to visit him anymore at the moment but would dearly love to keep open a line of communication between us …but then after a day or two,  I then change my mind and send a text to him …that asks, do you still want me to visit you? )……his reply asks, “ what’s changed” ? and when I try to explain to him by answering his question……it hurts me, why, because he  suddenly says to me, “let’s just leave it there for now.” It’s like he shuts off as if he is trying to protect himself.  In the moment I didn’t want to leave it there, I wanted to be totally transparent and talk about my real and true feelings ….not just leave it there, like he wanted to do.

Should I have just said ok let’s leave it there, when all I wanted to do was talk?

 

Its like he is not feeling secure with me because I keep changing my mind about whether or not I want to be alone, or be in a relationship with him, it’s as though he can’t handle me changing my mind sometimes about what I want. It’s as though he expects me to be more solid and certain about us as a couple,  as though he doesn’t want to be put in a situation where he’s not sure about what I’m going to want to do next. 
 

IDK,  I just feel confused in relationship with him, I am crazy about him, and the sexual chemistry between us is electrifying…but all I want to be, is free to be myself. But relationships tend to make me feel shackled even though I adore him …I can’t seem to feel relaxed with him. I recently said I wanted to shave all my hair off and be bald like a Buddha, and he responded with….” I won’t like that” ….so again I just don’t feel free to be myself.

 

I just don’t know how to be in relationships because I’m always feeling like I can never truly be myself with people. It’s like I have to play a kind of role that is expected of me before they’ll be accepting of me. And sometimes I just don’t think it’s worth the effort or bother, and that’s why I get the urges to be alone.

 

I would appreciate anyone reading this …to offer some advice…. Thanks. But it’s ok if you don’t want to say anything . I’ll understand.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What about being effortlessness. Do not spend any effort on him, let everything go. You will see how everything will drastically change for you. Even if he talks or not talks to you, do not expect anything. Just love the thing that he does not want to talk to you. It does not matter he talks to you or not. All the matter is loving the situation either he wants to talk or not to talk. Both are identical. 

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4 minutes ago, Jane said:

Byeee for now James 

 

James, you have said some amazing stuff .  Much resonance here. Thanks. You can rest now. Goodnight. 

Good night. Anytime!!! Thank you very much for the conversation. 

 

Peace!!!