Phil Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 1 minute ago, Reena said: Who are we to know if something is finite or infinite. In what way have we measured if something is infinite? There isn’t something. There’s the apparent thought something. Same for knower. Finite. Etc. 🤍 Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 Just now, Reena said: Who are we to know if something is finite or infinite. In what way have we measured if something is infinite? Who cares? Don't you have better things in life than philosophy? Oh your ex boyfriend is here what happened to old grandfather lol. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reena Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 1 minute ago, Phil said: There isn’t something. There’s the apparent thought something. Same for knower. Finite. Etc. 🤍 Who do you consider as the knower? Is the knower one? Quote Mention So basically I'm an autistic INFJ BPD sigma Pisces female with anger and CPTSD issues. Wow wow. My plate looks full. I Couldn't have been weirder than that. Now I get why I'm so idiosyncratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 8 minutes ago, Reena said: Who do you consider as the knower? Is the knower one? Knower is dualistically contingent on known. Nonduality is a pointer if you will, which doesn’t say anything at all about what is, but merely points out what isn’t (a second, such as a known or knower). Because infinite consciousness is self-aware, being a world-sphere doesn’t make for so-called experience. Because for self-aware consciousness, the so called world-sphere is obviously the very same self-aware infinite consciousness. Not a problem. Infinite consciousness simply appears as another sphere, a lens-sphere, by which, through which the world-sphere seems to be experienced, as if infinite consciousnes were inside the world-sphere consciousness is appearing as, or, being. There is no brain, mind, etc, etc. There is a lens-sphere. As the lens-sphere veils the infinitude of consciousness, there seems to be thoughts, finite thoughts. One of these apparent thought is knower. Verifiable in direct experience by attempting to point to a knower. If interested… Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel Posted August 9 Author Share Posted August 9 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Alexander said: Who cares? Don't you have better things in life than philosophy? Oh your ex boyfriend is here what happened to old grandfather lol. Bro. Don’t you have better things to do then contributing literally nothing of value? Edited August 9 by Marcel Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 7 minutes ago, Marcel said: Bro. Don’t you have better things to do then contributing literally nothing of value? Well I just come home from work and this nonsensical forum is something that I read.What am I doing,well drinking coffee. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 @Reena In short, there isn’t knowing or understanding. ‘These’ are actually seeking, like objectifying or using substances. Nonduality wise, knowing and or understanding would be a ‘second’, which again the ’pointing’ term nonduality ‘points out’ the truth is there isn’t. Nothing wrong with seeking, but what isn’t knowing or understanding can’t be found via knowing or understanding. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 32 minutes ago, Alexander said: Who cares? Don't you have better things in life than philosophy? Oh your ex boyfriend is here what happened to old grandfather lol. It’s obvious there is a SHITLOAD of ‘work’ to be ‘done’. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel Posted August 10 Author Share Posted August 10 10 hours ago, Alexander said: Well I just come home from work and this nonsensical forum is something that I read.What am I doing,well drinking coffee. Seems like a great use of your time if you think it’s nonsensical. You really have your priorities straight. Congratulations 🥳 Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel Posted August 10 Author Share Posted August 10 @Phil So if knowing / understanding / seeking is secondary. What is primary? Being? Direct Experience? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 @Marcel Not secondary - illusory. As in would be a second, which there isn’t. Nonduality essentially means not two, no second or no secondness. The illusion is that of apparent thoughts or, thought attachment, implying secondness. Akin to there seeming to be a mirage in a desert, yet amply inspected the notion is dispelled. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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