I don't know what I want

[Isagi Yoichi]

I don't know what I want to create and experience nothing comes to mind 

 

I am just living a dull dead boring life

 

How to know what I really want not some impulse desires and immediate needs and how to differentiate?

 

 

 

[Mandy]

You're creating the experience of not knowing what to create.

[Isagi Yoichi]

14 minutes ago, Mandy said:

You're creating the experience of not knowing what to create.

 

Is there someone who creates anyways?

[Mandy]

@Isagi YoichiJust more creation, but who cares?

 

Every time you create confusion you create more clarity, just line up with it. 

[Phil]

It sounds like you want a robust, full & exciting life.

 

The framing of the ‘situation’ is however frail, depleted and uninspired.

 

The interpretation (framing) is that there is me / consciousness, and this other thing, life. Yet, the framing and interpretation of life, which is consciousness, is felt by, consciousness. So the resolve of the self-judgment as dull, dead and boring, is self-respect & integrity. As self-love, these are essentially caring more about how you feel, than discordant interpretations being true.  

 

The framing of ‘nothing comes to mind’ adds unnecessary confusion, as nothing does not and can not come to mind. What appears in the lens (thoughts, interpretations), albeit apparent, is something, and never nothing. Even as apparent, a conceptualization of nothing (consciousness, self) is, experientially, something. This concept occupies the space of the lens, ‘where’ the actual specifics wanted would otherwise appear. Likewise, the interpretation, ‘I don’t know what I want’ occupies the lens, and is about a knower, which doesn’t know, what the knower, wants. Simply being, not knowing, is different in that the lens is clear and ideas & insights can arises in the emptied lens. 

 

Perhaps what’s wanted which is not ‘some impulse desires and immediate needs’, is indicative of not pessimism & boredom at all, but rather enthusiasm, passion & empowerment, which are also indicative of how interpretationals feel. 

 

Basic meditation is great for allowing discordant interpretations to subside and inherent peace to be more pronounced as being (consciousness, self, nothing) is unobscured. 

 

Mindfulness is wonderful for slowing down and noticing & appreciating there is no actuality of mundane or ordinary (dull). These arise as subjective interpretations which aren’t indicative of the (your) true nature / are not indicative of reality, and therein are felt as discordant. Consciousness (life) is very much aliveness & excitement, and is not ‘dead’, boring or bored. 

 

Aligning thought with feeling directly addresses the expectation that feeling, which is not a thing (nothing), could, should or would - come to mind. 

In seeing the impossibility of feeling aligning with thought, and instead allowing thought to align with feeling - what’s wanted - passion, enthusiasm & empowerment, and all the insights, ideas & specifics therein are naturally felt & naturally arise. 

 

Expressing appreciation for whatever is / was conceptualized as dull, dead or boring, or seems to be against you, is the actionable and infallible & effortless changing of interpretations, as the unfettering of the underlying creativity of consciousness. 

 

Introspective journaling is also a great medium of expression which clarifies what’s more deeply wanted, ‘beyond’ impulsivity and need based thoughts. It can be as simple as posing the question, ‘what do I really want’, and just typing thoughts as they naturally appear. It untangles & clarifies effortlessly, in & of it self so to speak. Allowing natural curiosity, as to what that or those ‘things’ or aspects might be is quite aligned as well. It’s indicative of the scientific approach, in that expectations are discarded in favor of inspecting and allowing whatever’s found, to be found. 

 

 

[Isagi Yoichi]

@Phil

@Mandy

 

Thanks for the responses really helpful

[Isagi Yoichi]

There are thoughts about what is wanted that feel good and thoughts about what is not wanted that feel bad, so the opposite of the thing that's not wanted does not feel good either there is no feeling related to it.

 

So it's not really a want it seems it's about the quality of thought because when something is genuinely wanted there is a feeling accompanied by a desire or the experience u want to have.

 

The insight I got here is there are "wants" u believe u want but that's just a belief.

Edited July 10 by Isagi Yoichi

[Isagi Yoichi]

On 7/1/2024 at 4:10 AM, Phil said:

Aligning thought with feeling directly addresses the expectation that feeling, which is not a thing (nothing), could, should or would - come to mind. 

In seeing the impossibility of feeling aligning with thought, and instead allowing thought to align with feeling - what’s wanted - passion, enthusiasm & empowerment, and all the insights, ideas & specifics therein are naturally felt & naturally arise. 

 

This a great clarification

[Isagi Yoichi]

The thought about what is really wanted doesn't come from fucking u they come on their own

[Isagi Yoichi]

So Preferences don't really exist 

Edited July 10 by Isagi Yoichi

[Isagi Yoichi]

4 minutes ago, Isagi Yoichi said:

So Preferences don't really exist 

 

1 hour ago, Isagi Yoichi said:

so the opposite of the thing that's not wanted does not feel good either there is no feeling related to it.

 

 

[ivankiss]

You can't know. Heart knows. 

 

Trick question. Do you have a heart?

[Phil]

3 hours ago, Isagi Yoichi said:

The thought about what is really wanted doesn't come from fucking u they come on their own

Totally. The separate self and or finite mind, being illusory, don’t actually conceive in any way. 

Yet also preferences (thoughts) aren’t separate things which could come from somewhere or someone, and also aren’t entities which could come on their own.

 

If you were going to get lost in the woods, ideally you’d bring an un-losable compass. Emotional Guidance. 

 

If you were to be somewhere / a world, thus making it seem like you’re inside of the world you’re being… since you can’t actually be ‘there’, inside of ‘it’, you’d have make “it”, the world that is your own being - perpetual in & of ‘itself’; experience, preference, experience, preference, experience, preference. ♻️ Being, being. Emotion; energy in motion. Appearance. 

[Phil]

4 hours ago, Isagi Yoichi said:

the opposite of the thing that's not wanted does not feel good either there is no feeling related to it.

That’s what black holes are for. Even in apparent recycling… unfocused, unrealized preferences have to ‘go somewhere’. Relatively speaking, preference appear of white holes. Aka people. 

 

The whole show is of you, as you, for you. Literally (already) effortless. Thinker, knower, doer, understander, wanter, needer… all like wrenches thrown into a perfect unfolding. 

[Isagi Yoichi]

2 minutes ago, Phil said:

That’s what black holes are for. Even in apparent recycling… unfocused, unrealized preferences have to ‘go somewhere’. Relatively speaking, preference appear of white holes. Aka people. 

 

U mean the unrealised section of reality keeps recycling thought energy until it gets manifested

[Phil]

10 minutes ago, Isagi Yoichi said:

 

U mean the unrealised section of reality keeps recycling thought energy until it gets manifested

Kinda. ‘Thought energy’ seems to credit energy to thought though. ‘Energy’ is appearing as thoughts. Same infinite unconditional ‘energy’ being the somewhere / world / thoughts is the same ‘energy’ being white holes & black holes. The relevant aspect is alignment creates.