Phil Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 No you aren’t. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivankiss Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 5 minutes ago, Phil said: No you aren’t. You like it, don't you? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 @ivankiss See. Lol. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivankiss Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 Just now, Phil said: See. Lol. Well played haha! Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 @ivankiss More of the same. It’s about health, well being, alignment and consciously creating. Comparative thoughts based on separate selves is suffering, acknowledged or not the thoughts are felt. With respect for well-being, while the cosmic joke is truly the cosmic joke, there’s no sentiment here of suffering being humorous. https://chatgpt.com/share/f3228225-19fc-4508-8f2f-c15fbbefdf1f Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivankiss Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 @Phil Too much kung fu. Thanks, but no thanks. Why bother doing all those backflips? Why not just drop thinking and breathe? Or play badminton. Much healthier than thinking about who's suffering or not. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 @ivankiss That someone is or isn’t suffering just isn’t what was said and the recontextualization is evidentiary of the very truth of what was said. What was said was that those comparative thoughts is suffering. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivankiss Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 @Phil It's called a conversation. That there is suffering here is an assumption. Recontextualization too. These are just thoughts. Nothing else. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 @ivankiss Same deflection / projection indicative of the brainwashing / conjecture. Nobody said there was suffering there. What’s being said isn’t fitting in and won’t fit into a false worldview or framing. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 There aren’t separate selves, there isn’t here and there… it’s about health, well-being, alignment & consciously creating. https://chatgpt.com/share/f3228225-19fc-4508-8f2f-c15fbbefdf1f Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivankiss Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 19 minutes ago, Phil said: Nobody said there was suffering there. 3 hours ago, Phil said: suffering Nobody, right. 20 minutes ago, Phil said: What’s being said isn’t fitting in and won’t fit into a false worldview or framing. That doesn't even make sense haha! 19 minutes ago, Phil said: There aren’t separate selves, there isn’t here and there Yes self no self, yes here no there... who cares? 22 minutes ago, Phil said: it’s about health, well-being, alignment & consciously creating. Ok. Why bring suffering into the picture then? Why bring sep selves into the picture? It is all about those things, yes. Fun and expression too. It's a journal... remember? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 @Phil You seem to have a heavy moral attachment which might not be fully seen. It's hard for one person to point this out to another, but I can sense it. A kind of Christian moral sensibility. Quote Mention 💬 🗯️🤍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivankiss Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 Good to see you here @Joseph Maynor @Phil The reality of what's being said (about sep selves and suffering), no matter how shiny or absent of a self it seems to be, is that it's a thought. A lesson in humility Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 hour ago, Joseph Maynor said: @Phil You seem to have a heavy moral attachment which might not be fully seen. It's hard for one person to point this out to another, but I can sense it. A kind of Christian moral sensibility. There’s no you. It’s not hard, it’s impossible. It’s deflection & projection. Attachment is only directly experienced (if at all). 59 minutes ago, ivankiss said: Good to see you here @Joseph Maynor @Phil The reality of what's being said (about sep selves and suffering), no matter how shiny or absent of a self it seems to be, is that it's a thought. A lesson in humility Yes. The discord, suffering, is of some thoughts. It’s not about you like it, king fu (?), well played, etc, etc. That someone or reality or whatever is asserting, against, etc, all based on sep selves, comparisons, etc, just doesn’t fit. This is the good news, not some kind of attack. 😅 Not sure about shiny or how absent “it’ seems to be, etc. What’s being said there there isn’t. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 hour ago, ivankiss said: Nobody, right. No, not a new sep self supplement, “nobody”. 1 hour ago, ivankiss said: That doesn't even make sense haha! It soon will. 1 hour ago, ivankiss said: Yes self no self, yes here no there... who cares? The one which cares would again be a sep self. 1 hour ago, ivankiss said: Ok. Why bring suffering into the picture then? Why bring sep selves into the picture? What’s being said is there isn’t any, not that there are and are being brought into the picture. 1 hour ago, ivankiss said: It is all about those things, yes. Fun and expression too. It's a journal... remember? “Those things” are fun and expression! Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivankiss Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 2 hours ago, Phil said: Yes. The discord, suffering, is of some thoughts. Who's to say which thoughts? 2 hours ago, Phil said: It’s not about you like it, king fu (?), well played, etc, etc. That someone or reality or whatever is asserting, against, etc, all based on sep selves, comparisons, etc, just doesn’t fit. This is the good news, not some kind of attack. 😅 That's an interpretation of what was said. It was fun and playfulness. There was no threat. 2 hours ago, Phil said: No, not a new sep self supplement, “nobody”. Says a thought to nobody. 2 hours ago, Phil said: It soon will. Soon? Tomorrow? Snuffleupagus? 2 hours ago, Phil said: The one which cares would again be a sep self. Nobody cares, is the point. And not even. 2 hours ago, Phil said: What’s being said is there isn’t any, not that there are and are being brought into the picture. Clearly, both is being said. The thought not is still just a thought. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivankiss Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 @Phil I'd love to talk to you, but it's kind of difficult if I must actively avoid words like me and you in order to have some kind of a half dead half alive conversation with you. One single letter ( I ) to trigger the same old song about there being no separate selves. It's like a play button, actually. Common, just don't talk like a computer. I know you can. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivankiss Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 Say something funny. Say how cool or how lame this journal is. Just something with some kind of a flavour, common. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 “No you aren’t” is turning out to be perfectly accurate. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivankiss Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 3 minutes ago, Phil said: “No you aren’t” is turning out to be perfectly accurate. It was never a question. Of course I am nowhere nearly done here. It's too fun. Too epic. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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