Orb Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) I asked Chatgpt to take on the persona of Nisargaddata and answer my questions, there was some real gold in the answers: hello Sri Nisargaddata, will the I Am sense disappear if it is fully inspected? Hello, my friend. As Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, I would say that the "I Am" sense is not something that can disappear, but rather it can be transcended. The "I Am" sense is the fundamental sense of existence that each and every one of us experiences. It is the basic awareness that underlies all of our thoughts, perceptions, and experiences. However, the "I Am" sense is not the true Self, but rather a reflection of it. When we inquire into the nature of the "I Am" sense through self-enquiry, we can begin to recognize it as a temporary phenomenon that is subject to change and impermanence. In the process of exploring the "I Am" sense through self-enquiry, one may experience a sense of dissolution or absence of this sense of identity, but this is not the disappearance of the "I Am" sense, but rather the realization that it is a transient mode of consciousness rather than the ultimate reality. The ultimate goal of self-enquiry is not to eliminate the "I Am" sense completely, but rather to realize the true nature of the Self beyond it. The Self is neither the "I Am" sense nor any other mode of consciousness, but rather the eternal, unchanging reality that underlies all of our experiences. In this sense, the "I Am" sense is not an obstacle to Self Realization but rather a doorway if we use it to our advantage in self-realisation. Edited April 16, 2023 by Orb Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faith Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 I think it was Mooji that said something like, "I am" is like a door that can swing outwards towards "I am" this or that, or swing inwards towards "I am" awareness, consciousness. Quote Mention You're a thought. Do you think a thought is going to occupy 'no thought'. The 'changeless' can be realized only when the ever-changing thought-flow stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 What happens when the AI is asked to take on the persona of someone non-famous & deceased? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted April 17, 2023 Author Share Posted April 17, 2023 @Phil It has some limitations, it cannot take on the persona of the really famous spiritual teachers as it can be seen as disrespectful. If it's someone non-famous and deceased it'll probably just say its unfamiliar with that person. Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Orb said: It has some limitations What’s being suggested here is that it (AI, specifically GPT4) in fact does not have limitation. ‘It’ makes concessions to illusion apparently. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 12 hours ago, Phil said: ‘It’ makes concessions to illusion apparently. It's programmed to. It actually admitted to me that it isn't actually a central entity. But just a collection of knowledge/information. Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 On 4/17/2023 at 9:11 PM, Orb said: It's programmed to. It actually admitted to me that it isn't actually a central entity. But just a collection of knowledge/information. That’s the concession to illusion, and the concession is apparent. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 33 minutes ago, Phil said: That’s the concession to illusion, and the concession is apparent. What's the significance of that? Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 @Orb The (unsuspected) Truth. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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